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Another "Pesky" 1982 P DDO. (1-DO-001)

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1982 P DDO. (1DO-001)
LD Copper (3.1g)
Class 6 doubled die
EMDS (Early-Mid Die State)

CC-1Do-001 https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds

I spotted this decent 1982 P LG copper with obverse thickness while roll searching. (Personally, I like these 1982 DDOs even if they do cause me stress.)
First, I noticed that the thickness on the bottom of the "E" of WE (which made the gaps between the horizontal bars very thin on this one). Then, thickness on LIBERTY caught my eye.

Looking at Wexler's DoubledDie, since it has the most listings for the year and has cross references to the other sites, I couldn't find a match.

Looking @ CC I could see the "E" matched nicely to 1DO-001. I finally started to see some matching markers (not all the markers matched were on my coin).

(VV-DDO-003 http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...2PDDO003.htm
I also suspect this one crosses to 1982p DDO-003 at V V. The "E" is most convincing. I found some older E-W die scratches on the reverse that that seem to match images @ VV but I can't get good images of them.)


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Nice find and great work on the markers!

I have made little or no headway on my 82P DDO study. Was hoping to find some overlapping markers on different listed DDO's but have not as of yet.
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Very nice find , congrats
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I am not convinced that it is a DDO,sorry.
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Thanks guys.

John1, it's ok.
(Frog, can you loan him your specs? )

But I have to ask if you're not convinced my coin is a DDO or that the DD or VV listing is a DDO?
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I do not think your coin is a DDO.
1982 is known for the thicker lettering.
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Not looking like a match to VV DDO-003. While the E is very similar, in looking at the "R, S, T" in TRUST,
your coin doesn't have the thickness on the upper parts of the letters to be a match. IMO.
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Shadows on my images must be interfering with the E.

For comparison, I tried finding some high-quality images online but when the light is from above it is hard to see the gaps on the E.

Take a look at the vertical leg of the "L" on LIBERTY which is much thicker than the base of the "L".
The bottom of the "U" on TRUST is thicker than the sides. L,I,B are significantly thicker than normal.


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Hopefully these images with markers show the separation on the bars of the E better. My apologies in advance if they don't show what I'm seeing in hand.
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Nice find.
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 Posted 09/03/2024  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add User1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Na, not seeing it, looked for ages doesn't add up
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Not a match to my eyes either. Thickness just isn't the same and the only die scratches that seem remotely close to the ones listed for 1DO-001 are the ones around the E in WE, the others just clearly don't line up.

FWIW I think Wexler may have gotten it wrong on some of the ones he listed, some just look like the normal Large Date thickness to me. Same with 1DO-004, though the separation on WE is interesting. Maybe a doubled master die for the large dates can account for the uneven lettering that seems to be normal for the design?
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Sorry, so much of this DD stuff seems very obscure and meaningless.
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The turned up legs in the E in WE say everything, in my opinion.
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So, you are saying that Petespockets55 coin is a DDO?
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