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1918 Buffalo 5c, Very Dark Patina-Grade Check

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About between 10 and 11 o'clock on the obverse I was able to scrape off a lot of that cake on crud. But I did not continue it since I did not know how much more value it would bring doing that.

I just want to know if this type of very dark surface is considered environmental damage or natural toning, which would not detail the coin?
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Can you sharpen these images for us?
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I'll say VF details, Environmental Damage.
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I ran a Q-tip soaked in acetone over both sides and much of that flaky looking material from the first photos fell off. Are there any suggestions on what other type of substance I could use to remove that residue assuming it would improve the grade?
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At least a VF details - corroded - very strange surfaces.
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Since it's already damaged (environmental) I'd give it a long soak in acetone and then nose oil it, If the rough surface of the reverse doesn't come off with a soak....could it be concrete residue ? (kinda looks like it from my chair)

I would never use acetone with a q-tip....just soak and rinse with h2o.
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Cotton swab+coin=
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Dirt coin !!!
I've seen this type of build-up an untold number of times on metal detecting finds - it can be stubborn. Give it a soak in food-grade mineral oil for a week - rotate once a day. Pat dry and then Acetone for 24hrs to dry it out. That should create some air gaps in the crud. If you have a steady hand, wetted toothpick test on inconspicuous spot to see if you get any lift/removal. If you do, give it a round of VC and then Q-tip roll on the VC to lift.

Sodium Sesquicarbonate would surely remove but could also expose more of the copper at the same time.
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EF details, environmental damage.
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