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1996-P Lincoln Memorial Cent Die Trails?

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 Posted 05/07/2009  12:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tomchad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this 1996P a few days ago in a bank roll. It shows some trails on the obverse. It doesn't seem to be listed on the traildies site, but I am not the best at the research. My question is about the last 2 photos, you may be able to see some effect on the bottom of the E and the D (toward the center of the coin) in the word "UNITED". It is not a lighting or photo effect, would anyone know or like to comment on what this may be? Also, might this be a new listing?
My photos aren't the best and I had to adjust the exposure for the effects to show up.
Thanks for any input and for looking.

TOM
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 Posted 05/07/2009  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say that's what it is on the words 'ONE CENT'.
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I see trails on the reverse - but you said obverse. Which did you mean?
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 Posted 05/07/2009  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomchad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse is what I meant . The obverse seems normal.
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 Posted 05/07/2009  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a trail die to me, I have found quite a few trail dies in different dates.
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 Posted 05/08/2009  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's definitely trails, no question about that. Whether it's a listed die, I don't know. BJ would be the one to answer that.
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I'm gonna drive people nuts with this one:-) can anyone explain If these trails are actually on the dies or not?
Why couldn't this just be a metal flow issue with the metal (plating) just being squeezed off , or pulled into the corners of letters or devices as the coin is struck?
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Bill: The dies are numbered as they match known trail dies. As true varieties each coin struck with these dies look the same. As though not considered doubled dies, the dies are affected. Hope this helps.
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If they were just metal flow it would not be consistent from coin to coin.
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 Posted 05/09/2009  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Coop,

Yeah that does help

....has anyone figured out what happens to the dies to cause the trails?

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 05/09/2009  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Robert Neff (BJ) has been kicking the cause of trails and wavy steps for some time now. He thought it was caused by movement of the hubbing on the die leaving a pushing of devices on the die. Some are spectacular others you have to seach for. The best examples are the ones with more appeal.
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 Posted 05/09/2009  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomchad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a minor example. The trails were hard to photo and had to be reflected in a light to see them clearly and even then I had to play with the exposure. The strongest part is the double trail coming off the bottom of the steps. Some folks on here have found some great examples. This is only the second trail die I have found, it's tough to find the time with small kids and work and Guard drills and all. I don't find much but I do like to post every once in a while.


Thanks for looking and for the input,

Tom
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