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 Posted 10/08/2024  1:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumiFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello.
I have several Roman coins but I'm not sure about all the details regarding them.
May I ask for your help?

1. If I'm correct these two are Constantius II follises - Gloria Exercitus.
Could You help with the obverse legend? There is NOBL part after emperor's name. What does it mean?
I also wonder what is the mint place of the first coin? The second is Antioch.
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2. I believe that these are follises of Probus, they look similar so I wonder if they are the same mint. Could You help with the proper link to Numista?
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3. This one has far worse condition so I'm unable to read the legend.
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 Posted 10/08/2024  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The very last (cruddy) one is Postumus. As far as legends go, I've seen way worse-a number of which I have posted here.
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 Posted 10/09/2024  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The two first coins are indeed Constantius II, Gloria Exercitus type. The top one is minted in Lugdunum (today's Lyon in France; that is what the PLG at the bottom means: Prima officina [1st mint branch] LuGdunum). The bottom one is minted in Antioch, Syria (today's Antakya, Turkey; SMANZ stands for Sacra Moneta ANtiochiae 7th officina).

The legend around Constantius reads FL IVL CONSTANTIVS NOB C and is spelled out Flavius Iulius Constantius Nobilissimus Caesar. Nobilissimus means Most Noble, Caesar was at this time the title for the subordinate emperor(s). Constantine the Great was emperor over all of Rome and had the title Augustus (his coins have AVG at the end of the legend). His sons - Constantius, Constantine, and Constans - were all caesars.

The Probus coins are not folles, they are antoniniani (seen by the spiked crown). The mint for the top one is Ticinum (today's Pavia, Italy). It should be here (bust can be either left or right for this type): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces292734.html
Also check OCRE for this type: https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric....386?lang=en

Mint for bottom Probus is either Cyzicus (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pi...293262.html) or Siscia (maybe https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pi...93000.html).

The last coin is Postumus, as @oriole points out. An antoninianus, minted in Lugdunum. OCRE entry: https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric...t.58?lang=en
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 Posted 10/10/2024  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second probus is NOT Siscia. It IS Cyzicus.
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 Posted 10/11/2024  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumiFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks for your help regarding these coins.

Is spiked crown always means that a coin is an antoninian? I mean is it a general rule for Roman coins?
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 Posted 10/11/2024  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome, NumiFan.

Spiked crowns, or radiate crowns as they are also called (symbolizing the rays of the Sun), were used on Roman coins to denote a double denomination. The antoninianus was worth two denarii (on the single denarius coin, the emperor was without crown). There was also the dupondius, a copper coin (worth two as), with a radiate crown (the single as coin was without crown).

There were also antoninianii depicting the emperor's wife or other prominent women. They did not wear a crown, instead they had a crescent (symbolizing the Moon) under the portrait.
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 Posted 10/11/2024  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is certainly not an absolute rule. The radiate crown was used on middle bronze coins on dupondii (not all dupondii are radiate). Antoniniani were introduced in A.D. 215 by Caracalla and were used through to the monetary reforms of Diocletian. There are a variety of radiate coinage that occur post the monetary reform that use the radiate crown but these are not Antoninianii.

Example radiate dupondii
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Example post reform radiate
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 Posted 10/12/2024  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumiFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@maridvnvm - thanks for this piece of information. OK, so as far as I understand below ones should be silver antoninians as they have a spiked emperor's crown.

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I think I've decifered the middle part of the legend - Gordianus Pius. Unfortunately the beginning and ending is blurry.

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This one also has the first part of the legend blurry - the rest looks like Traianus Decius Augustus.

Unfortunately I can't guess the personifications - tried to compare them with PDF file that I had downloaded but to no avail.
Also I can't see any mintmarks, so is it possible to check the mint?
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 Posted 10/13/2024  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First one is Gordian III with Jupiter on reverse. Here is the OCRE entry, where you can also see full legends and other info: https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric...i.84?lang=en

Second one is Trajan Decius with Aequitas on reverse: https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric...d.44?lang=en
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 Posted 10/15/2024  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumiFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's great, thanks!
OCRE looks like a nice online source, the only thing that could be added is the legend's translation. Nonetheless it can be always checked in other place so not a big deal.
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 Posted 10/15/2024  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forvm Ancient Coins has a lot of useful information about Roman and other ancient coins. Here is their page on Roman legends: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/n...6CtQWYv_c6-8
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