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1958-D Nickel Rolled Thin Planchet 4.81g

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At 4.81g it is barely out of tolerance. While a lot of wear could be from circulation, the central deeper devices don't show as much wear as the more shallow peripheral devices.


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1958-D-Nickel-Rolled-Thin-Planchet-4.81g
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 10/10/2024  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty cool. Did you find this or buy it?
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Pretty neat looking......... I'm sticking around to see what that may be from!
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CoinHI,
You always post interesting coins.
Would like to read what Mike has to say.
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I suspect this is a grease strike in which the obverse and reverse rim gutters were filled in certain areas. It doesn't really look like a buffing job, although I can't entirely rule it out.
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Thanks Mike, I thought the reverse did look like a Grease Filled Die but the obverse had me doubting that. The obverse shows almost no rim design which I understood to be an indicator away from Grease Filled Die issues.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Good eye, congrats!
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Thanks for the comments on this one.

Thanks John1

Thanks E&V, I bought this one since I thought it had an interesting look around $10.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Hmmm...

Could this possibly be a rolled thin planchet with the Blakesly affect showing on the opposite side of the "rolled thin" side?

(I'll try to explain my thought process.)
I was trying to reconcile in my mind the weakness to the rims @ k12 & k6. This seemed odd for a rolled thin planchet, to be weak on opposite poles (across from each other).

Then I noticed the weakness was more pronounced towards the base of the rev. and opposite this area on the obv.

Rim weakness opposite an inadequate supply of metal made my mind shift to the Blakesly effect.

I usually associate the Blakesly effect with clips but isn't it really about the lack of metal being available to flow into the dies devices.

Hope this makes sense and maybe it's wrong but it seems plausible.

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Not sure that works P55. The rim weakness is also at K3 & K9 from what I see. Blakesly effects happen at the upset mill and not from lack of metal at striking from what I understand. Thanks for taking a look though. I think this is just a mystery here.

What stands out to me as odd is the well struck and lightly worn EPL, U, & ERICA on the reverse. How does mostly everything look well worn except these letters?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Thanks, Greg for pointing those items out.

I had visually focused on the reverse and also forgot about the upsetting machine being responsible for the weak proto-rim opposite a clip and, ultimately, the Blakesly effect.

It is odd that the rim weakness isn't the same on both faces of the coin.
The obverse does seem to have a weak rim all the way around with a "dimple" on the back of his collar.

Do you think a very, very late stage brockage could cause this overall obverse effect?



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