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1847-D Liberty Head (No Motto) Half Eagle, Help Real Or Counterfeit

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 Posted 10/12/2024  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most likely genuine if not very attractive. Why would anyone fake this?
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 Posted 10/12/2024  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the better photos and weight.
I don't like the thick rims. Looks off.
If it's real, the wear is severe, jewelry as some have suggested, but I'll go further and say watch fob. Something handled many times a day for decades.
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 Posted 10/12/2024  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agedcoins1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the responses I feel better about it now I will take it to coin show next year when it comes around to get it looked at I never buy gold the reason I bought this one is because of the Dahlonega mint that is where most of my family was born again thank you
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 Posted 10/12/2024  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine, but obviously worn, damaged, likely cleaned, and possibly ex-jewelry. The D mintmark will nevertheless dictate a value well above bullion content. I'd invest the ANACS grading fee to ensure authenticity.
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Send it off the Anacs.
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I didn't think gold reacted to saltwater?

Salt is an abrasive. Decades of being exposed to currents and sand can cause wear.
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Why would anyone fake this?


Fake coins have long been made for costume jewelry. That said, I suspect this piece may well be genuine. Despite its relatively unsightly appearance, there are serious collectors out there who actively seek historic and affordable branch mint gold pieces, as this may prove to be.

Why simply be so quick to send this questionable item to a TPG, pay the freight and risk a body bag return. Logic tells me to FIRST take it to a well-attended show. A precious metals dealer there may have a gun that'll break down the metal content. Also, a knowledgable dealer, seeing coin-in-hand, can determine authenticity. He could then provide a receipt and get it certified; this, likely for less expense than an individual collector would pay. If it comes back genuine, the dealer might make a fair offer on it. Does this not sound like a logical plan?
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Thanks for the suggestion that's actually what I was planning on doing I'm pretty positive it's real now. And I happed to like the the unsightly appearance. I like coins that show their age over shiny ones. But again thank https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...33-small.jpghttps://www.coincommunity.com/forum...34-small.jpg
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 Posted 10/14/2024  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please, do let us know the results .... BTW ....

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I will but unfortunately the next closest coin show doesn't come to my area February
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I will but unfortunately the next closest coin show doesn't come to my area February


In thr meantime, you might find an area jeweler who can shoot the coin with an XRF Analyzer Gun. Write down the results, Just tell the jeweler you want to determine the gold value. I suggest that you play dumb on the numismatic stuff so as to better gauge his reaction to the piece.
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Regarding the "seawater effect": it's not so much a result of abrasion, but rather the slow corrosive effect of the salt water on the copper component of the coin alloy. The affected coin has a granular surface texture which is considered a defect.
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 Posted 10/15/2024  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agedcoins1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great idea about the jewelers I will do that I did have a friend how could do a ping sound test and it tested good for gold but I don't know how accurate that is either
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