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Question: Has There Ever Been An Authenticated Legit Error Note Of A 7 Digit Serial Number?

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 Posted 10/14/2024  02:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lnivison to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I have this dollar bill that only has 7 digits instead of the 8 digits. The two photos I have below is one showing the paper note dead on and the other one is held up to the light so you can see right through it to see if there was any number that was supposed to be there but isn't; that's why it's bad lighting. I can't tell if someone tampered with it (which I'm thinking is probably the case) to somehow erase that last digit off the serial number. I got it at work about a year ago and I've tried to look it up on a few different forums and google it and so and so forth and I've tried to ask on Reddit if people maybe thought it was worth my efforts and money to see if it is an actual error or if it was someone somehow tampering with the serial numbers on this bill, but unfortunately the main subreddit took my post down because it's part of their rules that the bill has to be a certified error which it is not. Anywho, can someone tell me if they have ever seen an error on any paper note of only having 7 digits instead of 8 digits for the serial number. on both the upper and lower parts. Like somehow that last digit just didn't get entered in or something.


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Question:-Has-There-Ever-Been-An-Authenticated-Legit-Error-Note-Of-A-7-Digit-Serial-Number?
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 Posted 10/14/2024  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some funny business to me. Someone erased it.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Steve is our note guy,but let's wait for him and others to chime in.
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to the CCF

I can't imagine how that occurred at the BEP facility.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hurry up Steve!
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 Posted 10/14/2024  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be an error (insufficient ink/obstructed printing) but it could also be erased. Considering it happened on both its a little/lot phishy. If you look at 829 you see some degradation of numbers on top and then you see a degradation on the B on the bottom. If this was me I would check to see if anything was rubbed on the last digit, if there wasn't you might have a real error (doubtful though). This is one that if there is a possibility of a real error I would get graded. Authentic error you are talking $200-$300 or more, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was graded, too many "fake errors" out there.

(edit after looking at the note more) The more I look at the note, the more fake it looks.

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I would bet almost anything that serial number(s) have been tampered with. I could possibly see one of the serial numbers missing the last digit, but both, no way. If you're ordering this from McDonald's, ask for the McFakey.
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Like somehow that last digit just didn't get entered in or something.

The problem is, banknote serial numbers aren't "entered" by someone sitting at a computer typing them all in, or even by a computer automatically calculating what the number should be. They're printed by a numbering machine, where each digit has a corresponding wheel of possible digits. There is no "blank space" on this wheel, and no way that the entire wheel for a digit can simply "disappear" in the middle of a print run without the entire mechanism exploding.

Now, it's possible (in theory) for a banknote to have "missing digits" caused by a failure to properly ink the numbering machine, some blockage in the ink delivery mechanism or it simply "runs out of ink" like an inkjet printer. Partially missing digits are a far more common outcome of this failure. But it is excessively, extremely improbable for such an error to occur simultaneously and identically on both serial numbers, since two separate numbering machines are used for each banknote.
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Agree, this note has been altered beyond a doubt.
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Thank you all for your input. Confirming what I was already thinking but because I don't really know how the process of numbers get printed onto a bill I just wanted to be sure by others who know way more than me what they thought and if they thought it could possibly happen. From the looks of it, the mostly unanimous decision is that it's highly improbable that both numbers could be gone. Which is what I was thinking because I'm not that lucky to find such a rarity as that but it was worth asking to make sure. I will obviously more than likely keep it as it's a nice novelty item worth keeping in my eyes and even if it was a rare bird I don't think I'd be able to part with it regardless.
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That is a great attitude to have
Keep looking,good finds are out there.
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I will obviously more than likely keep it as it's a nice novelty item worth keeping in my eyes and even if it was a rare bird I don't think I'd be able to part with it regardless.
Excellent! A reminder of a lesson learned and an example to reference in the future.
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In truth, something that should be destroyed.
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In truth, something that should be destroyed.
Disagree.
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If the Op spends it, it will end up here again by the new "finder" thinking they struck it rich. OP needs to hang on to it labeled not an error or burn it/shred it/destroy it.
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