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1983-P Kennedy Half Dollar Struck Through Grease And No FG

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Good evening guys!! Found this in my Kennedy half CRH last monday, it is a Struck Through Grease and no FG because of the Grease. Just want to share with you

Ohhh Guys I attached two images with arrow, can someone tell me what is that please? Thank you!!

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 Posted 10/23/2024  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Appears to be a die clash. Nice find
http://www.maddieclashes.com/wp-con...40122214.jpg
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Die clash remnants or a weaker die clash. Are you sure the missing FG is a Greaser?
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 Posted 10/23/2024  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find. You also have a Die Clash going on as well.
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Nice! Thank you lawest and Brandmeister!!

Brandmeister now I'm not sure , well the coin has grease all around the eagle and Kennedy head, you can see the E if WE at the obverse side, thats why I thought that is because of the grease. Do you think is another thing that cause that no FG?

I attached 3 more images may that can help
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Nice! thank you E&V and Dearborn!!

I am looking through a whole box of Kennedy half dollar, unfortunately no silver, but happy with what I has found till now
Dearborn what do you think what could cause the no FG?

Edited: ohh Dearborn I did not understand at first, but I read again and now I do, so you think the no FG is because of the polishing event. Thank you for let me know
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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/45061365
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/41532586

The way the eagle is rounded and EPU has melted into the banner, I think this is a very late die state. You can see on the examples above how FG has started to fade on the worn dies. But your die clash remnants—and the deep vertical polishing scratches—suggest that a faded FG might have been completely scrubbed off the die.

That's the sort of coin that I would consider submitting to Dr. Wiles at Variety Vista for examination, submitting to CONECA, or submitting to the Wexler team (if they were accepting submissions). I am no expert on Kennedy halves, though. There are a few folks around here who know all the weird little corners of Kennedy half varieties.
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 Posted 10/23/2024  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I turned up a few examples for sale on ebay. Also these CCF threads:

http://goccf.com/t/415796
http://goccf.com/t/345991
http://goccf.com/t/429260
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Thank you Brandmeister! I read some reply from the CCF threads, and some say that actually polishing is not an error.

I don't know much about errors, and I am not try to argue just trying to understand, but my question is, if die polishing is not an error, why people are looking for the Buffalo nickel two feathers, or three legs? Those are die polishing too (or that is what I has heard) and the three legs are very expensive and desirable for collectors. I just want to know what is the difference between them and this 1983. Can some one explains that for me please?

Edited: Brandmeister do you think that this is really worth to sending to CONECA? if so I can try.
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As I said, I am no expert in such matters. Earle42 has done extensive research on No FG Kennedy halves, you should get his opinion. Others here have a lot of Kennedy half dollar knowledge, you should consider what they have to say.
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Edited: ohh Dearborn I did not understand at first, but I read again and now I do, so you think the no FG is because of the polishing event. Thank you for let me know


Yes, because that the clash was so strong, the mint folks had to go back and polish off as much as they could. This means that they polish the flat areas of the field first. Then go after other raised areas to get rid of the clash - and that means 'erasing' parts of the design elements. that means that the 'FG' and part of the 'E' was eliminated.
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For interested parties, a little reading from PCGS on the subject of No FG Kennedy half dollars:

https://www.pcgs.com/news/what-are-...ollars-worth
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Definitely a keeper 'No FG"!
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Very cool no FG & great explanation from Dearborn.
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