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Just got this not sure what it will grade? I need grading opinions with this one? Looks better than most examples ive seen of this year in ms condition on the pcgs website. In comparison to the ms-64 examples I think it could be 64.   Edited by Shanghi
11/29/2024 04:53 am
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 to the CCF Nice looking coin. I'm not an expert on this series but your obverse photo shows lots of chatter in the fields and a rather large bag hit on the jawline. Assuming no circulation rub (can't tell with these images) then I suggest the obverse holds this back to MS63 at best. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll say MS-61 assuming it's genuine. to the CCF! |
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I have to agree with Frog, details look a bit mushy (could just be images) Did you purchase this raw?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I believe that this coin is not authentic. In the subject coin, at the base of the neck, the engraver's initials are very faint to the point where they are almost illegible. The initials should be sharp on an uncirculated coin. Also the 3 is wrong. The distance between the top serif in the middle point of 3 is incorrect. I looked at over a dozen 1873 open 3 double eagles and they all showed the same wide distance between the top serif and the middle point in the 3 in the date as illustrated in the last two photos in this post. Below is an enlargement of the subject coin.  The distance between the top serif and the middle point in the 3 in an open 3 coin.  The distance between the top serif and the middle point in the 3 in an closed 3 coin.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Any chance of getting some sharper photos? NS makes some good points about the date, can't tell from these photos if the designer's initials are correct.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hard to believe the two sets of images are the same coin.
Edited by Coinfrog
11/29/2024 7:00 pm
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I PROMISE THEY ARE#128557;#128557;#128557; the first pics were that bad  the lighting and angling made a crazy difference I can take more pics if needed. you can see the line still infront of her face but I just focused more on the date rather than the detail of the coin that pic. Edited by Shanghi
11/29/2024 3:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree that the first set of pictures and the second set provided do not appear to show the same coin. Apart from the spacing between the top serif and the center point of the coin, look at the dentils below the 3 in the date. In the second coin shown in the right, the dentils have wide spaces between them unlike the first coin you showed on the left. Not really sure what is going on here.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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It is the same coin guys. just better pics lets calm down I'm sending it to pcgs but as I was submitting the coin it said I needed a value for this coin so idk what to value it I was seeing if you guys also thought it could be ms 64 instead of taking it to a coin shop and if it is then I pay 150 for grading if not id pay 70 with a chance of paying 1% of coin value if it grades over 63. I think you can clearly tell that its because of angle and lighting and from what ive see online it makes a all the difference in how the coin looks. Should I just use express service level? And I would like to thank you all for the input.
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11/29/2024 5:13 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll guess MS-62.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't think it has a shot at 64 with that obverse. I'd bet on a MS62.
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Pillar of the Community
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That ding or scrape in front of the nose is deep. No way this coin gets an MS64 due to that and the other chatter. Might be deep enough to throw a details on it. MS62 by the pics I see.
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Okay I really appreciate the input guys its very helpful, so lets say ms-62 63 max should I use express or special issues service level?
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Bedrock of the Community
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No reason to pop for anything more than standard service. Express is usually reserved for big money coins or urgent situations. I would just go with the standard Gold Shield/RFID with TrueView.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
11/29/2024 6:59 pm
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