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1960-D Small Date 1c Suspected DDO & RPM

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 Posted 12/09/2024  04:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Xamant to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all,

I'm seeing extra thickness in the date, LIBERTY and TRUST. Done some more reading up on the topics and think I've ruled out both MD and DDD being the sole culprits here. I have also tried to match it to a listed variety and the closest option that I've managed to find (WDD0-003) Does not match up using the die markers.

There also seems to be a hook at the bottom left of the MM. Does this look more like a die chip to you guys, or could it possibly be an RPM? I wasn't able to match it up to a known example. Is there a way to rule out something like a die chip if I run across a similar suspect MM?
Hope I'm not going nuts on this one.

As always any advice/wisdom is always appreciated.
Thanks for taking a look!
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 Posted 12/09/2024  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a die chip by the MM. Also I'm not really seeing any doubling, just circulation flattening.
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 Posted 12/09/2024  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Dearborn.
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 Posted 12/09/2024  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NY Islander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent images. However, this one doesn't look like a DDO or a RPM.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD."
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 Posted 12/09/2024  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing anything abnormal, just what the minting process from 1960 makes cents look like under way too much magnification.
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 Posted 12/09/2024  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xamant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Circulation flattening, got it. Seems like that keeps getting me. Anyone have any tips on how to rule that out better?
Also, could anyone help me out when looking at the DDO linked and seeing where the doubling is showing? The examples of the 1960-d cents I was looking at on pcgs seemed a lot thinner when looking at the date, IBTY in LIBERY and T's in TRUST compared to my coin. Would this just be due to the die used at the time?
https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mds
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Anyone have any tips on how to rule that out better?

Yes - learn about the minting process - what can and cannot happen. It's a learning experience. Keep asking questions and listen to the answers.
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 Posted 12/09/2024  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xamant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also managed to get this close up of the Die chip in the MM. Thought it was neat and figured someone here would like it too.
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Recognizing wear, flattening, Die Deterioration, etc.... only comes with years of experience and the examination of 10,000's and 10,000's of coins. Do the work and recognition of the subtleness of MD vs PMD will come.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD."
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Also managed to get this close up of the Die chip

You sure that's a chip and not a molecule?
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25,000x Electron Microscope Image of a Copper One Cent coin. Image provided by Berkley Labs. Nice Toning!
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25,000x Electron Microscope Image of a Copper One Cent coin. Image provided by Berkley Labs. Nice Toning!
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