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"Black Beauty" Jefferson Nickels 1938-P

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Does anybody know which years that PCGS acknowledges that a nickel is a black beauty variety? Here's my 1938-P nickel. What do yall think? Is it a black beauty?

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The reverse
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Looks like a possible fire coin.
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Looks like toning of some sort. I do like the circulation cameo though!
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Agree. I know these are acknowledged by some grading companies, but it's something I'm always suspicious about.



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Does anybody know which years that PCGS acknowledges that a nickel is a black beauty variety?

Only 1958 and 1959 as far as I know. They are labelled as "Improperly Annealed Planchet" - ANACS uses that and the term "BlackBeauty".
If a coin is not in mint state, dark coloration is undoubtedly due to environmental damage. I don't think that the coloration would wear off of the high points if it were truly an improperly annealed planchet.
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It's some sort of toning. Check out this thread on Black Beauty Nickels. http://goccf.com/t/288744
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You have what I called a 'Blackened Nickel' - all of which is due to environmental issues.

It is alas not a collectable 'Black Beauty' which is due to improper alloy mixing, and occurred in limited numbers in 1958 and 1959.

I had an entire collection of Blackened Jefferson. Your coin would have fit in well. Great fun to collect as a sidebar blackened Jefferson.

You can read about them here from an older CCF thread, and gain some insights about your coin:

http://goccf.com/t/248676
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As folks have said, your coin had what we would call a circulation cameo. The tarnish, toning, or environmental damage has stained the coin a dark color. However, circulation wear and handling wear the high points back to silvery metal, creating a visually appealing contrast.
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Good discussion, agree with all.
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environmental toning.
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I wouldn't buy one of these even in a CAC holder.
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