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01/22/2025 8:51 pm
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I would like to avoid wasting a slew of time Us too! Can you please share which design elements seem doubled to you with the coin in hand? Thx. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I did not realize the image would not be about to be enlarged if clicked. The specific areas have been uploaded Spence.
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Ok yes those newly added pictures are perfect! Thx for adding them. Looks like Machine Doubling to me, but I'm interested to see what others think. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yep - Machine Doubling. I can't remember what that is around his chin is called though. |
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I think the area around the face is channeling. I see it often on the steel cents.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you all. You saved me hours. One of these days I'll figure out how to tell the difference aside from the shelf-like look.
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I think the profile is also Machine Doubling. It's in the same direction as the date. Channeling has a distinctive appearance, almost like a raised wire all around the edge of a profile. At least, that's how it looked on the Jefferson nickels where I've seen it most often. However, I will defer to jfeed if he's looked at a lot of wheat cents, as I am just a beginner with copper coins. |
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b2v, locate a few cheap real doubled dies on ebay. Once you have examined a few in-hand, it is way easier to distinguish compared to Machine Doubling. At least, that was my experience with Jefferson nickels. Also, save good examples of MD and DDD for comparison. You can pull those right out of circulation. As a rule of thumb, any doubling that extreme that isn't already in a catalog is a flag that it's probably Machine Doubling. Rare new finds do happen, but on heavily scrutinized and popular coins like steel cents, that seems way less likely. |
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great example of MD showing on this coin.
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I can remember posting a '66 LMC a long time ago, before I purchased my digital microscope, so I was having great difficulty holding pocket loupes up to my phone camera to show what I was seeing in hand! I never could get a good pic, but the bust had a much smaller doubling from top to bottom! After way too many pics were posted, none of which showed what I was attempting to show, some irritated member chimed in saying "no more pictures needed, it's re-tooling"!! Now that I think about it, I've not heard that term since, so could this be retooling, because I still don't have a clue what it meant/means? |
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CCB420.. That's why I suggested "channeling" on your coin. "Retooling" or "Channeling" is when an engraver deepens or redefines the devices due to die wear. However, other members have stated that it your steel cent is not channeling , but is DDD/MD so my reply is to your inquiry about the terms used.
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Posted 01/22/2025 8:55 pm
