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Valued Member
United States
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I just received my 2025 Ida P Wells quarters from the US Mint and found this dark quarter among the shiny new quarters. It's quite beautiful, lustrous and has the pinwheel of light. It's just much darker than the other coins. Could this be a "black beauty"? Improperly annealed coin? Thanks for any feedback.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Officially the term "Black Beauty" refers to improperly annealed nickels in 1958 and 59 only. Your quarter has the appearance of being struck through gritty oil and can make the surfaces appear to be darker than other quarters. Its the texture of the surface that makes me think this Here is a quarter I have that has an area struck through oil. 
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Pillar of the Community
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If you received this mixed with uncirculated ones from the mint it is plausible that it is an improperly annealed coin worthy of 2x2 it does show the characteristics of being a cintered coin, it shows an even formation of material on both sides indicating oxidation due to being stuck in the annealing furnace for a prolonged period of time. Can we see a picture of the edge/Reeds?
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Valued Member
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Can that be true if both sides have the same color / consistency all over the surfaces of the coin? There does not appear to be any "breaks" where there wouldn't be grease. Looking through other improper annealed quarters on the internet, this appears to be consistent with those. Looks just like this one: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/20...ling.307775/
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Can that be true if both sides have the same color / consistency all over the surfaces of the coin? Yes it is, the blanks are sent into the Annealing furnace before they're struck, therefor usually both surfaces of the coin will show same degree of oxidation and metals migration to the surface if it is improperly Annealed.
Edited by Chase007 02/08/2025 12:53 pm
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Valued Member
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I was responding to the person who posted that the coin was Struck Through Grease. I think because of the consistency of the color on both sides of the coin and the fact that the reeded edges are not affected PLUS is came directly from the US Mint Roll (just received yesterday), this is an improperly annealed 2025 D Ida B Wells quarter. I might send it to ANACS to get it graded.
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Pillar of the Community
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That is one way to authenticate it, most don't realize we assess these coins on forum primarily by looking at the images of the coins and not examining up close and in person. But one thing you might want to consider would be the cost of the TPG verses the coin's premium, but that is all on you and your personal preferrances .
Edited by Chase007 02/08/2025 11:11 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm thinking it's just toning, but I could be wrong.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I'm thinking it's just toning You have a point but don't you think it would be an unlikely scenario since the coin was newly released and hasn't had enogh time to tone.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: You have a point but don't you think it would be an unlikely scenario since the coin was newly released and hasn't had enogh time to tone. You're probably right. It's pretty new still.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I might send it to ANACS to get it graded. If you can't find the answer(s) you're looking for, then by all means send 'er in to a TPG! "Experience can be the Best Teacher"
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I'm thinking improperly annealed the reeded edge appears normal if the surface was toned then the edge should be also, in addition, the collar that holds the planchet tight during the strike then releases it can 'scrub' off the darkened surface. (I think)
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The way in which you found it make me feel like you got a winner there...  During my times bank roll searching I found several coins I wondered about...finally bought a slabbed example (quarter dollar) MS-66 for comparison of raw coins.....you know how much I paid for that PCGS coin?......with buyers premium...? $31.00 So if ANACS has a 10 for 10 deal, then slab it...if not 2x2 or Airtite would be best
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