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Unknown Date Buffalo Nickel Weight Is Off And Not Sure What Is Up With This Coin?

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 Posted 02/17/2025  11:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coins4ourkids to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All, I found this Buffalo nickel in my collection and happened to put it on my scale. It reads 4.5 grams and all my other Buffalo nickels are right around 5 (where I believe it should be so I think the scale is right on). Any thoughts on why this would weigh so much less? I'm a novice but I don't think these were clad so wouldn't be missing clad right? My first though is PMD but seems strange to loose that much weight and still see a lot of the coin. I think I could clean it to see date but wanted to try and get some info before doing anything to it (I know don't CLEAN IT!! LOL). It also seems thinner than my other Buffalo nickels. Could it be wrong planchet or something else? I have others worh environmental damage but this ones throughing me off cause ot doesn't look like my other tarnished nickels.
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 Posted 02/17/2025  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins4ourkids to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing some odd things on this coin... I wish it was cleaner and could make them out!! Does anyone see a second S in cents on the reverse? I've also been trying to decider the date but It looks like there are date numbers not exactly aligned with where they should be. Doesn't make sense but as I know they are stamped with the rest of coin but from different angles it really looks like another date with different font. Any thoughts on the second "s" after cents?
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 Posted 02/17/2025  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a corroded ground find coin that lost weight due to the metal loss from being buried for a long time.
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 Posted 02/17/2025  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking along the same lines as nickelsearcher.
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 Posted 02/17/2025  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins4ourkids to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking same thing, but seems like a lot of weight to loose to still be able to see detail on the coin. A lot of the lines are still there just covered in crud that I could probably clean off. I think the second S in cents is pretty clear, does anyone see the second S? I can't find anything online about it
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I can't see the coin clearly enough through the surface crud to comment directly on the second S - but I can suggest that you are experiencing Pareidolia.

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 Posted 02/17/2025  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably was in the ground at one time. Environmental Damage.
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This may help seeing the double S. I will try and get better pics when I can.
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 Posted 02/17/2025  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an extremely damaged coin, nothing special.

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Whenever multiple oddities appear on the same coin, always try to find a single explanation for all of the oddities, rather than conjecturing some fanciful chain of highly improbable events to cause the coin's features. In this case, there is one clear and obvious candidate:

Corrosion.

Lost mass? Corrosion causes mass loss. And yes, a corroded coin can retain many fine details of a coin's surface, if the corrosion agent attacks the entire surface of a coin evenly. Consider a "coca-cola coin" as an archtypical example: dunk an ordinary copper penny (not zinc!) into a bottle of coca cola and leave it there until the fizzing stops. The resultant coin will be smaller and thinner and much more lightweight than before, but still be clearly recognizable as a penny with all the features and lettering still visible. Here's a Canadian example.

Odd surface features? Corrosion causes these too. If the corrosive agent isn't quite completely uniformly spread across a coin's surface, then some parts of the coin will be attacked more strongly than others. This creates random raised and lowered lumps and bumps.

Whenever you find an extremely damaged, corroded coin, always assume that anything "odd" you see on it is as result of the damage and corrosion. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache that way.

Finally, you expressed concern over cleaning it. Don't worry, it appears it's already been (somewhat) cleaned. All that lost mass would have leached into the surrounding soil, and this would have had to have been cleaned off just to get it into its current state. Metal detecting and other ground finds are usually OK to clean, since the coin will never be anything other than a "corroded coin". A "cleaned coin" might not be worth much, but it's worth more than a "corroded coin".
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 Posted 02/17/2025  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1buff2many to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The date is 1927 and mint mark look likely S but hard to be sure with the corrosion.
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a very eroded nickel. the loss of material can account for the weight, especially if it started out lighter than normal.
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