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1983 P Lincoln Cent- Struck On A Damaged Planchet.

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1983 P Lincoln cent- Struck on a damaged planchet
This is another one from my recent 1983 P Lincoln Cent "OBW" roll purchase.
There is an arc going from VDB, across his shoulder, and into the field at about k8.
When I first spotted it, I was hoping it was an incomplete clip. But when I flipped it over, I saw it was lacking any matching curve on the reverse. This arc seems to match the rim of a 1c coin.
IMHO, it's not a scratch or other PSD since the linear feature continues uninterrupted where the bust meets the field.
Also, I don't believe it's a die anomaly or die damage since rigid metal that might cause damage wouldn't reach the deepest areas of the die.
Let me know your thoughts on this one.


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Nice to hear from ya dude! I'm running out of places to try to post and help, this one may be going away for me too...

Lot's of big words there, not sure. Don't make me google.

Could be a planchet issue, but I kind of like it for a floating die clash. The only thing that bothers me with that is the odd looking area in the field, almost looks reeded.
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Very interesting find for sure. Not sure what it is.
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I think if it was planchet damage it wouldn't be on Lincoln's bust - just in the field. The metal being moved up and into the void in the die should have negated the problem. And if it was some kind of clash how would the die have managed to push into the void on the die to transfer an image? I'm gonna say PMD of some sorts.
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The metal being moved up and into the void in the die should have negated the problem


I was thinking the same thing, so whatever caused this is not a legacy of the original planchet.
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LOL. I forgot I finally found the time to post this one.
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I'll try to explain better about why I believe it was on the planchet before being struck.

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...I kind of like it for a floating die clash.

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That thought crossed my mind, but ... I don't believe a floating die clash will show up in the deeper part of the die devices, like the top of the shoulder.

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... if it was planchet damage it wouldn't be on Lincoln's bust - just in the field

I'm not sure I follow why it wouldn't be on both areas. It's random where it ends up on a coin design. The area on a damaged planchet would flow into the shoulder. If anything, it's more likely to still be present in the deeper devices since there can be less pressure applied to the surface metal in these areas. We see it all the time when roller lines are still on a coin after being struck, especially Lincoln cents.
I agree it can't be a clash.


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... whatever caused this is not a legacy of the original planchet.

I do feel it was on the original planchet.
Consider what happens on a double struck coin. (This coin is not double struck.)
Not all parts of the first design is obliterated by the second strike. Some high points are flattened and many recessed areas remain.

If folks look closely on the shoulder, they will see roller lines. The fact that the roller lines are fairly strong tells me that the dies didn't strike this area very hard, which is why any planchet damage wasn't eliminated by the strike. (Lincoln cents are notorious for having areas of pronounced roller lines, which is a byproduct of the planchets not being fully struck, ie. lower striking pressure)

The original mint luster is still visible on this arc. it's not scraped or scratched and the underlying zinc isn't exposed.

Maybe it's because I have it in hand that I'm confident in my attribution.

Thanks again for taking the time to comment and offer your insight and questions. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. You guys rock.
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