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Wonderful coin. I would send it off to CAC for stickering, a green bean on this one likely increases resale value 10-20%.
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NGC calls is an MS(61).  Quote:
I would send it off to CAC for stickering, a green bean on this one likely increases resale value 10-20%.   |
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What superb eye appeal in that NGC slab! A coin I could only dream of owning. Congrats Adam.
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The coin was cleaned and has retoned in an odd way. The silver streak on the reverse is partly from blotchy retoning after the cleaning. A MS61 grade reflects that.
P.S. Another possibility is the cleaning solution that was used to whiten the center of the obverse got on a portion of the reverse removing the dark toning that (likely) covered both surfaces prior to cleaning.
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02/27/2025 11:44 pm
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http://goccf.com/t/476957&whichpage=2#4258052BH1964: Thanks for your answer. You say "partly from blotchy retoning after the cleaning." What else could cause this streak? And does anything think PCGS would cross it (at least at 61?)? I love NGC holders too, but a set of early dimes I am putting together is mostly PCGS slabbed. If not, it's OK, because "buy the coin, not the holder," but do you think it's possible for consistency's sake?
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I remember seeing this coin at auction a while ago. It's cleaned and retoned, it would have been crossed into a PCGS holder already if people believed it would cross IMO. I also believe it will not CAC due to the surfaces and toning. Nevertheless, a fantastic example of our nation's early coinage!
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BH1964: Thanks for your answer. You say "partly from blotchy retoning after the cleaning." What else could cause this streak? The cleaning solution used to whiten the obverse could have accidently gotten on parts of the reverse removing the toning and leaving the streak. Don't get me wrong. It's still a beautiful example I'd love to own at the right price. It's been to CAC and failed. It was in a Stacks-Bowers auction and did not sell at the reserve. I see you bought it from DLRC. Stacks and/or DLRC would definitely have tried to CAC a coin of this value which is 5 figures easily. As far as crossing to PCGS, it's worth a shot. It may have already been tried but who knows? No way I'd consider accepting anything less the MS61 grade assigned by NGC. I don't think you would either. |
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Thanks BH1964: Would you say that a majority of the high end 18th century US coins have been cleaned at some point? I see many in MS holders with no luster, and it makes sense that the probability of an antique coin surviving all this time and never being messed with, especially when it was widely acceptable (regretably) in the past to do so, is quite low. |
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Quote:Thanks BH1964: Would you say that a majority of the high end 18th century US coins have been cleaned at some point? I see many in MS holders with no luster, and it makes sense that the probability of an antique coin surviving all this time and never being messed with, especially when it was widely acceptable (regretably) in the past to do so, is quite low. 18th century U.S. coinage is a limited market and I really don't know. There are numerous lightly cleaned and/or mostly original pieces available and they are all expensive. Normal toning and patination can leave an MS coin void of luster also. Think of the "skin" a coin that age should have. |
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Beautiful coin Adam !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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That is a beauty, congrats!
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Nice IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I finally tried to cross this dime into a PCGS holder, at the suggestion of a dealer who is apparently one of the cofounders of PCGS. He said there was a 60% chance they would cross it.
Sadly, PCGS told him that they can't cross it due to "Questionable Color." I like the coin no matter which holder it is in, and I chose this coin because it is both beautiful and more affordable than other MS 1796 dimes, knowing that this probably due to the silver arc on the reverse looking strange, but part of me wants some consistency among my early dimes. It would be nice to put all 4 of my Draped Bust dimes (so far!) into the same PCGS tin.
I understand, but this makes me sad that PCGS won't cross this coin.
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