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I Need Help With These Coins (Id: 17th-18th Century France Jetons)

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 Posted 05/22/2009  07:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add beshergh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
[size=3][center]what are these ?!!
what are the price ?!!
what are the dates ?!!


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 Posted 05/22/2009  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These aren't "coins" in the usual sense of the word; they're French "jetons", which in France were a kind of officially sanctioned token. They weren't intended to be used as money, but as counters for counting boards - kind of like a tabletop abacus. In mediaeval and early modern Europe, counting boards were commonly used for:
- doing simple mathematics using Roman numerals
- adding up and converting the values of coins using the extremely complicated French monetary system.

The top two date from the reign of King Louis XIV of France (1643 - 1715). The bottom one dates from Louis XV, and bears a tiny date on the reverse: it looks like "1753" to me.

As for value, it's hard to say. Since they're not coins, they're not listed in the coin catalogues. If I had to guess, I'd say around $20 each, at most?
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French tokens, sold at annual fairs, informing public what has happened in a time newspapers where not available to the general public. Also used by aristocrats to play games of cards, where tokens had a value only known to the players around the tables. If you lost or won the game, you leave your tokens behind at the house where you have tested your luck that evening,so the next day a private bookkeeper payed you the visit by letting you know the amount you have earned or lost the previous night, and an invitation whether you were planning to be payed or to pay. Every aristocratic French family ordered there tokens in France at Paris Mint, but also german cities like Neurenberg have had large industries for making these tokens also. It depends how rich you were. The Germans produced the cheapest of those days.
In the Netherlands these tokens were also produced, but entirely for political purposes during the time of the 80 year war against Spain.
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