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1877 P Indian Head Cent : Opinions On Photos & Grade

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I finally got around to getting some good photos of this 1877 P Indian Head cent. The ones we had were a little less than the quality I like to see in a photo. Anyone care to grade it, or grade me on the photos?

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 Posted 05/22/2009  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good photos!

Grade? I will defer to one of the IHC experts, like Kurt!
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VG details, corroded
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In my opinion judging from the photos, I would say a solid G. My 6th edition ANA book states that 2-4 letters in 'Liberty' are necessary for VG. I cannot tell if there are letters in 'Liberty' from those pictures.
So G-6 is what I think.
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 Posted 05/24/2009  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also agree with G and also with corrision. I don't see any letters in LIBERTY.
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G- Corrision
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The astute forum members are correct. It has been graded G, as there are no letters showing in Liberty. But my pics are nice.
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G with corrosion and cleaning.
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What makes you think it was cleaned?
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"What makes you think it was cleaned?"

Just because some people always say that everything was cleaned.

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"What makes you think it was cleaned?"

Just because some people always say that everything was cleaned.


This coin has definitely not been cleaned.
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Congrats on owning one. I'm working on that set, but I'm not sure I'll acquire that one anytime soon!
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I don't say there is cleaning on every coin I make an attempt to grade, in fact, I hardly ever say that. This coin on the obverse is redder in color on the letters and date and especailly portrait than in the field. This led me to think it has been lightly cleaned at some point. This is only my opinion and I may be wrong- may have to do with the lighting or flash, etc. The reverse looks more normal-looking though, so cleaning may have only been one side. If flash/lighting were same on each side, than the OBV coloring is most likely due to cleaning.

Even if it has been cleaned, to me it does not detract from the coin at all. It is a very nice piece. But I think if you send it in to PCGS, it will get a "Genuine" stamp with no grade.
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This coin on the obverse is redder in color on the letters and date and especailly portrait than in the field.


The "clean" areas are the high points...which is normal for a circulated coin that has *not* been cleaned, correct?
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I am thinking the same thing Steve199 is thinking. It is worn more on those high points... wearing away the dark corrosion areas.

I wouldn't pay $825 for it due to the corrosion problem. Plus I would want a key date like that slabbed.

-SFWUSC
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"Plus I would want a key date like that slabbed."


Slabbed coins command a premium price. Would you be willing to pay for the additional cost of having it slabbed?
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