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I was going through some old boxes while getting ready to move to Hawaii. In some of my wife old thins I found 15 silver rounds and a 3 coin set in a very nice felt box. All the coins are labeled Hutt River Province. I found the below website that lists all the coins I have. The 15 rounds are the Fathers of Baseball series from 1992. The 3 coins set is also from the same set but contains 1 silver proof, 1 1/10 oz gold proof and a bronze coin that has a baseball player on the front and the designers name carver in the back labeled 008 of 500. The story behind these coins is pretty neat I'm just trying to find out what kind of value they have besides bullion. The mintage totals for the set was 500 and 2500 for each of the rounds. http://www.imperial-collection.net/...oins_01.htmlEdited by Sap
05/28/2009 05:47 am
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I'm thinking that some of our Aussie members can probably tell you a lot more.
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these "coins" aren't even NCLT. "Hutt River Province" is/was a farm. The farmer didn't want to pay taxes, so he "secceded" from the Commonwealth of Australia. No-one takes him seriously.
I gather that the myth continues because he now generates sufficient income from so-called coins, stamps, vizas, & tourism, that he can pay his taxes, and afford the lifestyle he enjoys, without having to sweat on the farm.
It was an interesting story decades ago, but now it's just one more species of harmless eccentricity, and there's enough of them to go around.
Peter on Oz
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Prince Leonard I  |
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So I guess your saying they are worth the bullion that they are stuck on
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I'd check ebay to see if any of the coins have sold ... I glanced and saw a cupro-nickel Spalding "coin" for auction starting at $5.99 with no bids yet. |
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It should be pointed out that there are two distinct species of "Hutt River Province coins". "Real" HRP coins are ones that were made here in Australia and once were for sale actually in Hutt River; the ones from the "New Queensland Mint" are all bogus, issued in America without the consent or knowledge of the "Prince" by somebody pretending to speak on the Prince's behalf. The "New Queensland Mint" was somewhere in California. This same guy also sold knighthoods, passports etc and pocketed the cash for himself. A good tip to tell "real" from "bogus" is the design: ones with designs specifically intended to appeal to Americans (like the Desert Storm series and the "Fathers of Baseball") are not "genuine" HRP coins. All these coins, however, are listed together on the Atlantium website and in the Krause book of Unusual World Coins. That's the problem with being "diplomatically-challenged". An imposter can come along claiming to speak for you, or even to be you, and there's not much you can do about it because nobody else recognises your legitimacy, either. Quote:
"Hutt River Province" is/was a farm. The farmer didn't want to pay taxes, so he "seceded" from the Commonwealth of Australia. No-one takes him seriously. He did have a crack legal team, and he did win some High Court challenges to his authority. The official attitude of the Australian government is now, "Ignore him and he'll go away". Hutt River Province is still there; so far, their policy hasn't worked. But ol' Prince Leonard is now in his eighties; I'm not sure his "successor", Crown Prince Ian, is up for the fight. Prince Leonard did, however, cause some changes to the way the bureaucrats in Canberra respond to secessionist crackpots. Now, whenever someone writes to the Australian government announcing their secession from Australia, someone in Canberra now swiftly writes them a nice polite reply saying "No, you have not!". Loophole closed. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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05/23/2009 07:36 am
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Thanks, Sap. It is a very interesting story/hit of history, especially with the "coin" factor.  |
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Side note: The link in the initial message seems to be "dead". All I see there is "This domain is expired, please renew it. Please contact us for more information", along with various links ...
Christian
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Curious. The link was working just before I posted my reply. Maybe the Emperor of Atlantium needs to fork out a bit more Imperial largesse and get his website fixed.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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