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1837 Large Cent Rotated Axis

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 Posted 03/25/2025  12:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add afornaini to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good afternoon,
I have just received a 1837 Cent I bought online.
It is a lovely coin, in a holder, but I noticed its back is rotated about 10° anticlockwise.
Usually large cents have coin alignment (180°).
My question is: is this a variety or is this coin a fake (I hope it is not)?
Thank you for your advice.
I attach some pictures.
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 Posted 03/27/2025  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not an expert but hope that an expert will comment and maybe I can learn something.

This is a very nice coin and I do not see it as a fake. Yes, some 1837 cents are known to have a rotated reverse. I'm not sure if the rotation increases the value as much as many listings on ebay claim. They are sellers and not buyers.

There are 17 varieties in 1837 and 3 different heads so I had difficulty and am guessing that this is variety N-6 with obverse die 5 and reverse die E with Medium Letters, but am not sure. My diagnostics are obverse "L" of LIBERTY has no offset to the base and "IBER" are close together at their bases. Also reverse "T" of CENT has a broken pendant on the left side.

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 Posted 03/27/2025  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Newcomb-6 looks correct. As @cipster suggested, the minor die rotation is not uncommon and is unrelated to the die variety.
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 Posted 03/28/2025  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin looks AU or at least high XF. Not sure if the dent above the head would reduce the grade. The broken T on the reverse In CENT is a flag to me, but could be a die issue. A nice example.
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The broken T on the reverse In CENT is a flag to me


I see it as a diagnostic to identify the N-6 variety.
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I checked my 1837 Large Cents and I do have an N-6 with a rotated reverse but it wasn't noted in my database. PCGS AU53 if anyone wants to compare to the @afornaini coin for grading.

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