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1878 CC Morgan MS 63+

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 Posted 04/07/2025  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will let you decide.


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Well, that's not fun. I was hoping someone with some expertise could tell me what degree of rotation this could be.
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 Posted 04/07/2025  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to be rotated 15 degrees.
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Well, that's not fun.
But it's supposed to be.... If you do not enjoy learning and figuring out things on your own, maybe this is not for you. Give it a chance and try. When you go to the site, scroll down, you will see "measuring coins", click on that and you will see a "Roto Flip", this was made by Leroy Van Allen, One of the two that started VAMWorld. You should be able to tell fairly close to what you have with this. Just take the first step in someone not telling you what it is and try to do it yourself.
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 Posted 04/07/2025  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bkw1982 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK using that diagram on retro flip it is sitting at a 20° counterclockwise. That is from what I can tell.
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That's a pretty nice job! Thanks for giving it a go. Not sure what I have done is perfect, had a few toddies tonight. The obverse may have been set a little off too and you have to take that into account. Here is a quick pick I did over the roto flip, I would think you were pretty close. Rotated clockwise though.




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Thank you for all the information.. all in all it's a pretty cool coin. I was excited to pick it up. The lady at NGC said it was $775 value at the mint state it is in.
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Oh cool I was right. I used the rotate function in photo editor, glad that worked..

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And that's not even taking into account It is a rotated die error.
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It also has a long nock on the arrows. Is that a VAM possibility
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Is that a VAM possibility

All Morgan dollars should have a corresponding VAM variety, so yes, your coin should be able to match a die variety according to vamworld.com. It is still very possible new vams are still out there, but I doubt that is the case with your coin. FYI: VAM equals Van-Allen and Mathis two early varieties specialists.
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