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1964 Kennedy Half Dangling 4

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 Posted 04/24/2025  2:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add crunchy628 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this in a batch of coins I had set aside awhile back and need opinions on if this is the rare Dangling 4 version ? The microscope turns silver coins a greenish tone for some reason and I can't get a good close-up with my phone.

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 Posted 04/24/2025  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a SMS.
edit: It looks like the nose of the 4 took a hit which may be what you're seeing.
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The 4 took a hit.
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I don't understand what you mean by the nose took a hit ? The dangler is on the crossmember. I'm new so I'm not trying to be arguementative.
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When he said the "nose of the 4", I believe he meant the triangle, which could be interpreted as nose-like. There is indeed a nick in the left tip of the 4.
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Oh Jeez - I'm 65 and can guarantee you that ain't dangling -
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Sorry, this is not the SMS everyone wishes they would acquire..

I always wondered where the sets went - Has anybody even heard of being able to acquire them?
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Did I miss something? What is a dangling 4 ?
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Has anybody even heard of being able to acquire them?

Guess not!
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I remember a discussion about them in a presentation some time back, and some mention that at least some of the known coins were scattered in early bags of the Philadelphia coins and a few were in 1964 proof sets. If so, it certainly wouldn't be impossible for one to be found in the wild.

There are also other markers to identify one of these coins. On the obverse, there are a couple very small die gouges in the hair near the "B" of LIBERTY and a die scratch between WE and TRUST. On the reverse, there are die scratches from the bottom left of the N in UNITED to the star beneath the U of UNITED, inside the second S of STATES, and a longer scratch connecting the top of that S to the bottom of the O in OF.

Back in the day, I had a chance to see in hand one of the Denver (1964-D) presentation pieces. It looked less like the Philadelphia 1964 SMS coin, but more like a semi-prooflike Morgan dollar (to use the old phrase). It, too, was clearly different than the regular business strikes. Denver selected two regular working dies, basined them specially, and double or triple struck the presentation pieces for "dignitaries."

Are the Philadelphia coins remainders from a similar striking? If so, where are the rest? Were they kept by the "dignitaries" or were they spent?
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