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1956-D Wheat Maybe DDO?

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 Posted 05/22/2025  5:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Myminely22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a question about this penny. Could it be a DDO? The 1 and 9 make me think it might be. I checked here but didn't find anything. I only found this on Variety Vista.
(I took some images from Variety Vista for comparison.)
https://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%2...6DDDO002.htm
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 Posted 05/22/2025  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not see any doubling in the date, motto or LIBERTY. The listing that you are comparing it to has a doubled eyelid, no other doubling. You may have the doubled eyelid but cannot tell from your pic. Yours does have a similar mm location to VV's DDO-002 though.

VV https://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%2...6DDDO002.htm
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-Makecents- That's the one I was referring to, but I didn't know how to put the link correctly.
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-Makecents- That's the one I was referring to, but I didn't know how to put the link correctly.
. I was told how to make the link work, and tried changing it three times but it keeps reverting back to the link that will not work. Anyway, the only thing that is doubled in that listing DDO-002, is the eyelid and as I stated above, I cannot tell from your pic. Would need a much sharper pic, as it is a very minute doubling.
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Not seeing a DDO so far. Will wait for close up images of the eyelid.
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how to make the link work

This is how I get Variety Vista links to work... works for me in both FireFox, and Edge:
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Thanks, Jeff, again! I actually went into my thread and took out the S and it put it back, three times.... I know I can do it after the fact and have, it works but why is this happening to begin with? Something to do with VV, that they have to correct? It stinks!
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Something to do with VV, that they have to correct?

In my opinion, yes.

But Bobby would be the one to ask.

The problem, I think, is likely host security policy on the forum site... probably automatically rewrites embedded links to HTTPS for security reasons.
Unfortunately, variety vista's site does not support encryption (which they should).
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Bobby could explain better than I can.
(I believe variety vista can be white listed, maybe in the server-side redirect script, if Bobby chose tto do so. I could be wrong... not my web site and I don't know how it's coded.)
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Back to the coin...
I agree with the others... eyelid pic would help.
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I assume you're thinking some sort of Type-VI doubling, correct? The broadening of the 1 and 9 are definitely suspicious, but strangely the 5 and 6 don't seem to be broadened, nor do the letters in the mottoes. And of course the D looks normal as well.

I'm not sure how I'd explain the broadening of the 1 and 9 without the 5 and 6 and other letters. Maybe someone can posit an explanation of how this could happen during the die making process.

When faced with such conundrums I find making an animated overlay to be very helpful.
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I assume you're thinking some sort of Type-VI doubling, correct? The broadening of the 1 and 9 are definitely suspicious, but strangely the 5 and 6 don't seem to be broadened, nor do the letters in the mottoes. And of course the D looks normal as well.

I'm not sure how I'd explain the broadening of the 1 and 9 without the 5 and 6 and other letters. Maybe someone can posit an explanation of how this could happen during the die making process.

When faced with such conundrums I find making an animated overlay to be very helpful.
It happens, Ray, typically explained by Die Deterioration. Here is a nice example I have and Bob Piazza explained that it was from Die Deterioration on the Lincoln Cent Forum.

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IMO... I don't see DDO.
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It happens, Ray, typically explained by Die Deterioration. Here is a nice example I have and Bob Piazza explained that it was from Die Deterioration on the Lincoln Cent Forum.


For sure the edges of the profile looks like Die Deterioration in that example, but the edges of the "19" don't look the same. I don't think Die Deterioration can explain the thicker letters on "19".
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For sure the edges of the profile looks like Die Deterioration in that example, but the edges of the "19" don't look the same. I don't think Die Deterioration can explain the thicker letters on "19".
Here is a link to my original thread if you are interested in reading it.

ADDED: After going back and reading through that old thread, Bob never actually said it was from Die Deterioration, but gave several things that could have caused it.

LCF LINK. https://www.lincolncentforum.com/fo...-to-large-19
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Seems like the jury is still out. I couldn't think of how the 19 could be enlarged as a legitimate part of the die making process, and apparently neither could Bob back then. But indeed there is evidence showing an enlarged 19, now on two different dates. A mystery for the ages.
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