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Looking For A Little More Advice About Ebay Standard Envelopes

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Despite searching through past posts on this subject I am still conflicted with regard to exactly what I should be doing - or not doing - so as not to run afoul of the USPS sorting and handling systems.

I sell a lot of sub-twenty-dollar coins on ebay and I'm the one paying for the postage (free shipping for the buyer) so I try to use ebay standard shipping wherever possible. My usual shipment consists of one quarter-sized or smaller coin, in a cardboard 2x2, stuck inside the folds of a packing list, in a number 6 and 3/4 security envelope...which is roughly 3.6 inches tall by 6.5 inches long. Using ebay's "get shipping label" system and my printer, I've been printing the buyer's address directly onto the envelope. (Cheaper and more efficient than printing an actual label)

Until yesterday, I had been dropping these into the slot at the post office and simply walking away after depositing them. Yesterday however, as I turned to go I heard, "Excuse me! Sir...?" A postal clerk summoned me over to her window and told me that because my 5 envelopes contained rigid objects, I'd have to pay the additional 46 cent fee (each) to have the envelopes stamped as "Non Machinable".

At that point I made a conscious decision NOT to tell her that I'd mailed about 30 envelopes just like these over the past two months and have had no problems. Tracking showed they were all delivered and buyers were not complaining about mangled envelopes or having to cough up 46 cents to make up for my deficiency. I just paid her the $2.30 (5 x .46) and let her do her thing with her red ink "Non Machinable" hand stamp. But I resolved to come HERE (Coin Forum) and see what I could learn.

Some of what I read here seems to say that making the envelope totally rigid by using something like a Safe-T mailer is the way to go while others have said that allowing the envelope to easily bend on either side of the coin is the way to go. Thoughts...?

I'd hate to think I'm going to have to pay the 46 cent surcharge on all of these going forward...not because 46 cents is an exorbitant amount, rather because I don't think I could accomplish it at home with my printer...I think I'd have to get a postal clerk involved each time I did this.
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I've never had a problem with ebay standard envelope shipping. I attach the coin in a flip to the packing slip so that it is in the center of the envelope.
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. Use a plastic flip instead of a cardboard 2x2 so it's somewhat flexible, and tape it to the packing list so it doesn't move around. It's less likely to run into problems in a sorting machine that way.
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That clerk is straight up wrong. The USPS web site plainly states that you can send up to 3 coins in 2x2 flips as long as the envelope is streamlined around the coins and flexible enough to pass the machines. Obviously, it needs to conform to the other dimensions, weight, and instructions for normal envelopes.

https://pe.usps.com/text/csr/ps-328.htm

I have mailed a couple hundred ebay envelopes at this point with virtually no USPS mailing problems.
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@Brandmeister: Outstanding!! Thank you!!
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Yes, that clerk was having a bad day. I've run into that type on multiple occasions at my local PO.
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I use ESE for 80% of my ebay shipments - as Brand said the clerk is wrong.

First and foremost, never let them stamp it non-machinable. I had a shipment for a CCF contest that was stamped as such and it took 3 months to go from MT to MI (yes, 3 months).

Here is what I do and I've never had a problem (sometimes tracking takes a while to update but it does 95% of the time)
- I print the label directly on a white 4x6 envelope in 1200 DPI
- My coins ship in a Mylar flip and I tape that flip to rigid card stock (folded in half - fits perfect within the 4x6). I think it is 30# stock and it protects well.
- This I find to be key: the coin ends up taped to one end of the card stock. IE: If it is in the middle it may not scan because of the bend required.
- Pack slip/invoice is folded and wrapped around card stock.
- Drops directly in bulk box AND, I take a video of the label and drop for proof.

Just my .02 - seems to work for me.

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I tape my cardboard 2x2 coins directly to the invoice with painter's tape (so it comes off easily). I have found that the shipping label just works better if I print it on paper and cut it. The invoice is just folded into thirds and placed in a normal 4.5" x 9" envelope (or whatever it is).

One important factor is that when shipping three coins in flips, I make sure to space them apart horizontally. If you put three right against each other in a line, the envelope becomes inflexible.
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All: Thanks again for your input and ideas!
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