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*Correction: Coin is 2cm wide in diameter (not 2 inches). In my hand it feels like a current 1p England coin. I don't have a tool to weigh something this lightweight. Photo of the tip as requested (the symbol is facing down, figure is facing upwards):  Suggested Reference: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...ia81907.htmlOP: Hi. I'm not a coin collector, but I found this coin and it looked special.   It's 2 inches wide and just under 2mm thick. As you can see, the top has a slight point towards it, rather than a perfect circle. I tried comparing it to images of other coins with the same writing, but the SIOH-NNESB side of mine shows the figure holding a different item/symbol on their right hand, than the ones typically referenced elsewhere. 1. Is this a reference page for this replica/genuine coin? 2. What's the origin, and is it a genuine or fake? 3. Estimated value? - Thank You. Edited by Boss5695
07/12/2025 09:32 am
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The symbol is a mintmaster's mark. They were changed (usually) twice per year, so it would make sense that all the ones you're seeing are different!
(I was sadly unable to figure out which specific one this is.)
The gold florin of Florence was imitated all over Europe, but this (is real) looks like one of the original Florence examples. Uncertain on authenticity one way or another.
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Welcome back @boss. It sounds like you are saying that this piece is about 50 mm in diameter. Is that right? Please confirm and also give us the weight plus a picture of the edge above St. John's head. I wonder if this isn't a modern pendant with the loop removed.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Correction added to OP: Coin is 2cm wide in diameter (not 2 inches). In my hand it feels like a current 1p England coin. I don't have a tool to weigh something this lightweight. Photo of the tip as requested (the symbol is facing down, figure is facing upwards): Thank you for all your replies! |
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Your coin seems to be an exact match for this Numista-listed replica. It could theoretically be the original it's based on, but "replica" seems more likely. Thank you for the reference. I notice that is more circular compared to mine which has a noticeable angled tip. Does that make a difference? If it is a replica, do you think it might be worth anything over $1-10? Edited by Boss5695
07/12/2025 09:58 am
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I don't think the cross is ever this long on a genuine one.
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The edge picture does seem to show a seam plus a filed off sprue or loop, neither of which is a good sign. Assuming this piece isn't real, your next step to assessing value would be to find out the alloy: is it bronze, gold-plated 925 silver, gold, or something else? You would need a good scale to perform a specific gravity test or else bring this to your LCS and have them zap it with XRF or a Sigma machine. If you do decide to take either of these steps, please let us know the results in this thread. Thx!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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or else bring this to your LCS and have them zap it with XRF or a Sigma machine Wait, what? What is an LCS? I've looked at used surface XRFs, but they were way too expensive. (And we don't have one at work I could borrow, either!) I'd love to have an affordable way to get analytical data on the composition of coins! |
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Sorry for the numismatic jargon @sam. LCS = Local Coin Store Some coins stores (and pawn shops) have these machines and will assess pieces for their customers.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Oh, gotcha... I thought it was an acronym for something in the scientific field!
I had no idea coin shops had this kind of stuff. Now I need to ask some that I visit.
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Thanks to everyone who replied!
Since there is now no active debate, and this is deemed a replica of no discernable value, I'll stop investigating this one.
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