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Buffalo soldat Valued Member New Zealand 189 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 06:42 am Hi, I've got this wee unit, and I'm wondering it the lines running horizontally across on the obverse are roller marks or PMD? It has a bit of a mild sand-blasted vibe to it, though maybe it's just those production issues that plagued this series again. Can I call this EF with the just barely full horn, or does it go lower? I do note that the ribbon up on the head dress has definition on it. Thanks in advance, Tim * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Do not read this sentence. Report this Post to the Staff

Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6473 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 09:48 am I think the bands are caused by uneven toning. Buffalo nickels are known for laminations and variations in alloy mixing. There is probably just a bit more copper in the dark bands, like the nickel below. Roller lines or draw bar lines are physical features in the coin surface. I believe they tend to cover the entire planchet surfsce uniformly, so roller lines would not be clustered in bands. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187862 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 11:22 am Quote: I think the bands are caused by uneven toning. Buffalo nickels are known for laminations and variations in alloy mixing. There is probably just a bit more copper in the dark bands, like the nickel below. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10492 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 5:11 pm Not sure if toning or just some kind of staining - but not roller marks. Report this Post to the Staff
Buffalo soldat Valued Member New Zealand 189 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 5:49 pm It does seem to be incuse into the coin just here and down onto the background area towards the rim. Do not read this sentence. Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10492 Posts	Posted 07/22/2025 6:09 pm Quote: It does seem to be incuse into the coin Environmental corrosion? Roller lines are some type of "dirt" on the rollers that leave lines on the coin stock. There would be no reason for roller lines to cause voids in the metal when striking the planchets. Report this Post to the Staff
Buffalo soldat Valued Member New Zealand 189 Posts	Posted 07/23/2025 08:44 am There are also the lines across the lower portion of the coin, and they also seem incuse in the coin along the points of the red arrows, though they continue right down across the bottom of the coin, including down off the native's head to the background area. Seems odd that environment damage would be so linear in places. My sense is that some foreign bit of something got into the dies as they were working, or else the poorly mixed metals were more than just a surface issue. Rather a sort of lamination issue that wore smoothish over time. Do not read this sentence. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187862 Posts	Posted 07/23/2025 10:23 am Quote: It does seem to be incuse into the coin just here and down onto the background area towards the rim. Quote: There are also the lines across the lower portion of the coin... Interesting. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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