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Really PCGS? Really? 1825 Half Cent. Are You Sure? Oyyyy

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jbuck: No, that's not the reason for the derision, but it stands out like a sore thumb: that's NOT the 1809-29 Bust device used on those dated Half Cents; ergo that's a hell of a re-engraving job!
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I only have the one classic head half cent—in my 7070—so I am not sure I would have ever noticed that was the problem without a closer look at the series.
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Looks like a banged up date to me (at minimum). Way too small for 1825 but 1835 looks pretty close.
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Yes, Alpha, after zooming in I can see something is amiss. Looking at the Red Book gave me more clues...
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The 1825 Half Cent has two obverse dies, and only one die for the reverse. This coin doesn't have that reverse die
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1825? Close enough -
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The grading services all make mistakes like this .
Just send it back and get it fixed .
Or sell it as an error slab as others do .
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Pacificoin: This isn't a simple "Ooopsie!"; it's a fundamental failure of the process...
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This is a simple mistake. You should realize how many coins a PCGS grader sees in a day.
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Just because you had a rude waiter at the restaurant, doesn't mean the entire restaurant business is faulty.
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I expect that a heralded Third Party Grader would note a re-engraved, tooled date, the amount of coins that they receive to grade notwithstanding. That is No Excuse, and PCGS will tell you so. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, rude waiters notwithstanding
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"Tooled date"? This isn't my area, but are you sure it's not just a damaged 1835?
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The reverse sure looks like the 1835 C-2 to me... even segments of the die crack.
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Alph2814: yes, it is tooled (i.e.: an out-of-Mint caused movement of metal, by an implement) to be dated 1825
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