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1836 Capped Bust Dime - Variety And Grade?

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Hi,


I'm thinking this Capped Bust Dime is F15. Seem right? I'm also unclear on the variety designations/differences, e.g., 1836 JR-1. Is JR the designer's initials? Are they to do with variations in the 13th star with his star punch?


Thanks in advance,
Tim



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1836-Capped-Bust-Dime---Variety-And-Grade?
1836-Capped-Bust-Dime---Variety-And-Grade?


[Thanks to admins/mods for correcting coin type. It's not one I have looked at much, and I should have double checked the name and spelled it out.]
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I think those hairlines and deep scratches on the obverse would detail it. I'm thinking Fine details.
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The JR stands for Jules Reiver, who cataloged the die varieties of Bust dimes (coincidentally it's also the initials of the coin designer). There are only 3 die varieties of the 1836 Capped Bust dime, and yours is JR-3.
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i think F15 is a fair grade. also I think it will grade straight
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The JR stands for Jules Reiver, who cataloged the die varieties of Bust dimes (coincidentally it's also the initials of the coin designer). There are only 3 die varieties of the 1836 Capped Bust dime, and yours is JR-3.



Thanks, Zurie. I've looked at the varieties on PCGS, but I cannot see the difference between them. I see references to differeces in the 13th star. Is that correct? Does that assume counting from the bottom left around to the bottom right?

If it's something else, what am I meant to be looking at?
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Thanks, panzaldi.
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Buff, it's a process of elimination. To start, the alignment of "I" in pluribus relative to the "T" in states is a good place to start. Neither JR 1 or JR2 are a match. Also the orientation and location of the 7th star relative to liberty and then the star point closest to the denticles and its alignment relative to the denticles. Only JR3 is a match.You really have to get use to looking for the smallest differences in each variety unless there are obvious die state markers like die cracks that are known for the coin of interest.
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The differences are minor, but enough to distinguish between the various die pairs used to strike the coin. In this case, in addition to what @adam126402 mentioned, look at the position of the date, the spacing of "10 C", and the ends of the scroll in relation to the letters of US of A.
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Thanks for the further clarification on varieties.
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Looks like an F-15.
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