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Valued Member
United States
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Hey guys, just wanted your opinion. I picked up a bunch of Morgan's recently.   |
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Moderator
 United States
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This does not look authentic. What is the weight and diameter? Quote:
I picked up a bunch of Morgan's recently. If they all look like this I hope you have return privileges. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
73900 Posts |
Something is off about this Morgan. It looks counterfeit to me.
Errers and Varietys.
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Valued Member
 United States
217 Posts |
Yeah that's why I posted this one. This is the only one that looks like this. Ill have to weigh it later today when I have I have a moment.
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Valued Member
United States
217 Posts |
This was in a friend of mines grandfather's collection. The rest seem normal.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5663 Posts |
It might just be caked with grime. Hard to tell how much is staining, or corrosion, or just dirt. Might be a candidate for some gentle conservation, starting with a distilled water soak for a few days. I don't see anything obvious that indicates a fake.
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Valued Member
United States
343 Posts |
I was suspicious at first glance as many counterfeit Morgans are "toned" in a similar fashion. That being said, I believe that this coin is genuine. The date position and mintmark look similar to known VAMs, but the main reason is this little fellow:  This is a known pickup for VAM-1 (and possibly others as well) and in my experience it'd be very unlikely for a counterfeit to have a detail like this.  I'd still do a Ping Test to be sure, but I'm on Team Genuine. Please let us know how you make out, good luck. |
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Valued Member
United States
217 Posts |
Gotcha and thanks for catching that. Thats awesome.
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Valued Member
United States
217 Posts |
Would you recommend NGC restoration service and variety attribution on this?
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Valued Member
United States
343 Posts |
I don't think the value would really justify either. There aren't any notable 1883-S VAMs to my knowledge and the coin appears to be in the VF/XF range, meaning it's probably only worth around $100 (or less). If you're looking to sell it you'd be better off selling it raw in my opinion, it's unlikely you'd recoup your grading/conservation fees on top of the raw value.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not seeing anything that would indicate a counterfeit. VF details ( PMD) most likely improperly stored |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6383 Posts |
One more vote for a genuine coin, with probable ED and very poor eye appeal. A better date for sure, but with little premium value in this condition.
Add it to your silver stack!
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Valued Member
United States
217 Posts |
"with probable ED and very poor eye appeal."
I could make a very funny joke about the previous comment but I will keep it mature for this forum. Haha.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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What do you see that led you to that conclusion @IndianGoldEagle?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The rim was the first red flag. Have you weighed it?
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Posted 08/13/2025 10:38 am
