This "Au Details" 1842 Liberty Seated Dollar Looks Over-Graded To Me - Your Thoughts?

Interesting thread. I can't think of a reason why a seller would artificially cause wear in their coins photos.

Clearly the same coin. Looks like the simple case of terrible photo disease. Who knows what is exact setup is or how the coin was made to look more worn.



No, because you can't copy black carbon spots and perfectly match the toning from the host coin.

Late to the party, but I agree with Marve as well. The black crud in the last A of America is also a match.

Let me ask this about the coin value. Would there be any perceived increase in price by convincing someone that an AU details 1842 quarter was a mis-graded VF/XF coin that might straight grade if cracked and resubmitted?

I think that even after considering the occasional scammy nature of ebay, these are probably just lousy over-filtered photos and not an attempt at deception. What do that seller's other images look like?

It's a puzzle. Most of the seller's other listings have nice, sharp photos, but an occasional one does not. Here's another of his listings that looks vastly different than the images from NGC (on bottom). It's clearly the same coin based on the location of various toning spots, and the label looks just as sharp as the NGC images. Hard to imagine that he's improving what a buyer is willing to pay with these presumably altered photos.

What I find particularly odd about the images is that the text is essentially the same. The coin itself looks more worn. Is that the result of a basic filter, or is that actually an AI filter of some kind?

It does seem like shenanigans, because there is always the option to just use the NGC website images unaltered.