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1917 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-101 - Unorthodox Split Serif

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 Posted 08/14/2025  4:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PlutonianFire to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a 1917 Lincoln Cent that I think may be DDO FS-101. However, it has a slightly aberrant 9 with split serif pointing toward 6 o'clock rather than, say 3 o'clock or 4 o'clock.

I skipped photos of eyelid doubling, established die markers, similar photos of motto letters from Variety websites, etc as they don't seem to be of much relevance to members of this forum for attribution purposes, based on my last post.

FWIW, I have included an example of a 1917 DDO FS-101 graded VG10 by PCGS that shows an atypical 9 somewhat similar to this one.



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PCGS 1917 DDO FS-101 VG10

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 Posted 08/14/2025  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I don't see it here ,# 7 doesn't look like the one on your example and the # 9 looks like normal with flattening from circulation and damage/ hit on both ends
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Hard to tell, but I don't think it's a DDO. I'm seeing lots of circulation flattening.
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This one looks good to me. It's easy to see the thickness atop the 9 and 7, almost twice as thick as the posts. The bottom of the first 1 also has a strong twist on the bottom right corner that was probably a notch at one point. The eyelid also looks quite thick.








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@plut, in reviewing your last few threads, I thought that perhaps I could use pictures to explain a bit what folks are seeing. In the below picture, I have included close-ups of the date for an actual DDO (on top) and your coin (on bottom). While both coins have some circulation wear, the DDO has parts of some numbers quite thick in comparison to other parts (e.g. the top of the number 9 compared with the bottom of the number 9--the red arrows should help with the comparison). On your coin, notice that both regions of the 9 are approximately the same thickness. Hope this helps!



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I see it now. It looks good to me.
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Hey PF!

I think this may be the DDO you attribute it as, but with the major wear and circulation flattening it is very difficult to tell for sure. So I will give it a definite maybe.
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While both coins have some circulation wear, the DDO has parts of some numbers quite thick in comparison to other parts (e.g. the top of the number 9 compared with the bottom of the number 9--the red arrows should help with the comparison). On your coin, notice that both regions of the 9 are approximately the same thickness.

Spence nicely summarizes what I was driving at. A mint state example of this DDO has a specific proportion to those numbers. Circulation flattening might stretch out the number metal, but it should do so proportionally. You can hammer out the 9 to be twice as thick as a pristine 9, but on the DDO, the doubled metal areas would be 3-4 times as thick as a pristine normal 9.

As has been pointed out in other threads, it is unhelpful to only have magnified images of a few small areas. To assess a coin in this state of circulation wear, people really need to see two full coin shots.
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As has been pointed out in other threads, it is unhelpful to only have magnified images of a few small areas. To assess a coin in this state of circulation wear, people really need to see two full coin shots.
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