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Is This Flying Eagle Cent Stained, And MS Or Au?

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I was quite intrigued by this 1857 Flying Eagle cent. Is this unusual coloration considered toning or staining? Would the coloration push the coin down to AU, or is it a mint state coin?

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 Posted 11/07/2025  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fun. Does the reverse have a similar look?
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Looks like tone. Always though to call with photos.
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Tough call. Could grade high AU or MS. I think the coin has toning.
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I am in the AU group. If the coloration is toning, it might go MS.
It is a great looking coin.
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Looks like a toning issue to me. Would be helpful to have pics of both obverse and reverse with the color as close as you can get to what it looks like in hand. Also have you checked any of the clashed varieties of this date? Looks like some type of clash may be happening above the date.
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As a matter of fact, it's FS-901, the reverse clash with a Seated Liberty quarter. The asking price is too high for my personal risk tolerance.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/227062998155

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I would avoid this coin at all costs. These photos look like Denver Coins/Canyon City Coins backgrounds and they crack out details coins from auctions and sell them raw on ebay. Not sure who this seller is, as I've never seen them before but you are better off avoiding this example.
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I would avoid this coin at all costs. These photos look like Denver Coins/Canyon City Coins backgrounds and they crack out details coins from auctions and sell them raw on ebay. Not sure who this seller is, as I've never seen them before but you are better off avoiding this example.
And I believe they changed the ebay store name.
We have talked about this seller before
https://goccf.com/t/401362&

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There is a "green spot" on the coin, I'm guessing that's environmental damage
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Thanks for the help! As folks said on the 2021 thread, it's wonderful to have you guys around to enlighten us on these situations. The community knowledge at CCF is truly superb.

As was also mentioned on the earlier threads, it was suspicious to me that a $1500-2000 coin wasn't already in a slab. I do see quite a number of Flying Eagle cents in AU and MS grade change hands on ebay, so I don't yet have a handle on how determined folks are about slabbing.

The surface issues on this coin are a bummer. The physical structure of the coin is in good shape, and it clearly shows the rare mule clash down into CENT. I guess the images are documented for posterity. Maybe someone should update the discouraged sellers sticky post with this guy's new store name.
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these photos/lighting are doctored. stay away from this seller. stay far away
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These photos look like Denver Coins/Canyon City Coins backgrounds
First thing that came to my mind when I saw those ebay pixs.
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