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Silver AR Tetradrachm (Attica, Athens C.440-404 Bce)

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I am not a collector of ancient coins and really don't intend to start, but I have long wanted to have at least one in my general coin collection. And I figured that if I were to ever get one, I might as well get a really nice one, both in terms of age and condition.

And so, when I saw that APMEX was having a sale on ancients last week I finally bit the bullet and decided to spend around $2000 for this beauty:

Silver-AR-Tetradrachm-Attica,-Athens-C.440-404-Bce Silver-AR-Tetradrachm-Attica,-Athens-C.440-404-Bce

Silver-AR-Tetradrachm-Attica,-Athens-C.440-404-Bce Silver-AR-Tetradrachm-Attica,-Athens-C.440-404-Bce

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Although I'm sure I could have found a similar coin cheaper had I shopped around, I trust APMEX and am hoping I didn't overpay by some ridiculous amount.
I had a choice of two nearly identical coins for the same price, with this one having a strike of 5/5 and a surface of 4/5 and the other having a strike of 4/5 and a surface of 5/5. I figured it was more important to have the best possible strike in order to see all the details.
I had no idea how thick these coins were! The slab is significantly thicker than that of all my other graded coins.
My wife wasn't thrilled about me making this purchase up front, but she changed her mind completely once she actually saw it in person. She just kept saying that she couldn't believe how amazingly good it looked for something over 2400 years old.

[As an aside, I have no idea why the system keeps changing "BCE" to "Bce" in the title of my post.]
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Fantastic!


No, no -- you're doing it wrong! You're supposed to say, "Dude, you got totally ripped off -- it's a complete fake and/or only worth $50" (which is usually the result when I decide to leap into something expensive without looking first)...
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You still know more than me about ancients and all I know is it looks good to me, so, that is all I can do!
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Although I'm sure I could have found a similar coin cheaper had I shopped around, I trust APMEX and am hoping I didn't overpay by some ridiculous amount.

$2000 is probably about right for a high-grade, slabbed Owl these days. Pre-COVID, you could probably have picked up one for $500 or so, but prices for ancients overall since then have just gone nuts.

Many ancients collectors don't like slabs, but it's fair enough if you want to pay the extra cash for peace of mind, and to have it match the rest of your slabbed coin collection. The slabbers are getting better at correctly authenticating and attributing ancient coins, though as with any other human institution, they are not perfect. Owls are a very well-studied series and all but the most skilful fakes should be detectable by the TPGs.

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I had no idea how thick these coins were! The slab is significantly thicker than that of all my other graded coins.

Ancient coins are, generally, quite thick compared to modern coins. You have to remember, coins back then were not counted by stacking them up in neat little piles - that concept wasn't invented until the Late Roman period. Coins, handled in bulk, were weighed rather than counted, so they needed coins that would be "easy to pour". This is why many ancient coins tend to be bean-shaped.
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barryg, that is an absolutely gorgeous coin! I think that you made the best possible choice of an ancient for your collection.
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Beautiful addition to any collection.
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A very nice high grade pleasing to the eye example. Congrats. The ones with full helmet crest, complete nose on flan are scarce and bring higher prices.

Ancient coins encompass a very broad range from about 6 cent. BC to the end of the Roman Empire with numerous kingdoms, empires, cultures. A lot of collectors concentrate on a certain culture or ruler(s) such as collecting the twelve Ceasars. There are some popular ancient coins that many ancient coin collectors want including the Athena owl tetradrachm, a coin of Alexander the Great, Tiberius silver denarius "tribute penny," the Biblical widow's mite prutah, etc.
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It's a very nice coin. Sooner or later. I've looked at a lot of them. But there's always something else that comes along.

Lately it's been Tanit and Melqart.
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That is absolutely gorgeous! Ancients are not my expertise but that is a beautiful coin.
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