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Is This A 1 Yuan Chihli Province 1898 And Does It Look Real?

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 Posted 11/15/2025  05:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Moniker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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its mounted in a silver bowl sadly only pics I got, thankful for input


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 Posted 11/15/2025  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ok. Ex jewellery so the value would be lower.
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 Posted 11/15/2025  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Gx appreciate it, yes atleast it was not mounted in the fields so only edges damaged I think. Bowl is actually quite nice. But havent seen inhand ofc
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 Posted 11/15/2025  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fields look quite 'pasty' in the pics, lettering indistinct.
I suspect fake.
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 Posted 11/16/2025  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not confident either way and will defer to the more informed.
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 Posted 11/16/2025  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fake, probably made for mounting in the bowl.
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isn't it much work to make a fake to place in a silverbowl?



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Judging just by appearance, as far as I can tell, it looks like it could possibly be genuine. There is what could be normal wear on the higher points and scratches that seem more likely to have been made in circulation rather than when mounted in a bowl. In most cases counterfeit coins don't show these types of signs of wear. I don't see casting bubbles on the surface. However, reading about this (valuable if genuine) coin it says there were restrikes and many fakes, so it's hard to tell without being able to weigh the coin (genuine should weigh 26.7 g), examine the edge, or test for density. An XRF scan at a coin shop might reveal the metal content, which could give a clue. You could probably measure the diameter with a caliper; a genuine coin should be 38.8 mm.
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Looks too much alike, or no different than the numerous fakes I have.
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 Posted 11/18/2025  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank for everyones input I appreciate it very much . we will se if I can get it cheap. These coins arent superexpensive in vf, this version more common than 23 I believe.

Is it common for chinese silversmiths to stamp their bowls like this?
atleast it looks like it has reeding on this pic


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 Posted 11/20/2025  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think people need to remember that many Chinese silver coins specially cleaned or damaged before 2000s were melted for silver scrap. These were quite cheap back in the days. Silver ashtrays in particular weren't worth too much as silver price were about 5 us / Oz.

I remember picking up a dinged junk boat dollar for less than 10 dollars back in those times.

Hard to believe that that did happened. If you recall the freedom anti communist coins that I have - these were overstruck over such silver Chinese coins
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