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 Posted 12/27/2025  04:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add spaceman spiff to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings,

What a cool forum!

I got this in pocket change today, anything to it? I know squat about coins and I'm interested to understand how this quarter got this way.

Thanks in advance.
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 Posted 12/27/2025  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Looks to me like it has been damaged by a grinder.

Do you have the ability to give us an accurate weight? A normal clad quarter weighs 5.7 grams.
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 Posted 12/27/2025  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was damaged after it left the mint.
How doesn't really matter, damage is damage.
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 Posted 12/27/2025  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceman spiff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi nickelsearcher,


the weight is 5.417 grams.


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Jimmy D,

How does matter, it's the main point of my thread. I don't care about the damage, just how it happened.

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to CCF.
This quarter was intentionally damaged by someone with either a sander or a small grinder (like a Dremel Tool) and the rims were removed.
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Abraded coin--likely mechanical.
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To CCF! Dearborn summed it up well. I agree.
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@spaceman spiff - - - deliberate PMD
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Thanks to all, much appreciated,

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I have two quarters identical to what you have.. Then, you must be super talented to take that quarter and keep it in place and grind the diameter.Evenly around both sides of that without leaving a scratch or a pressure mark in the middle where you love it.So it didn't slide. using to hold this thing dead center and have the diameter of this.So called grinds they are dead center evenly.Grounded in the diameter of the coin, but no ratchets are showincoin without showing scratches.How to use tools?But there is no grinding marks on that at all. I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.And ain't no wait in the hell. That was done by a grinder.You can't tell me that somebody had that dead center and took a grinder and made it completely even around the perimeter of that coin on both sides. That I believe was a defective planchet. Who ever said that this was done by a grinder. Please would you post a live video of you making these grinds on this coin.Exactly what I see there. I will send you a gift card for p$100.00 to prove me wrong., but these are your opinion and we greatly appreciate everything that you're telling us,but not everything is always PMD... Don't take this the wrong way.This is my opinion too
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I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.
OK well maybe not a grinder....here's what I've seen...and I've been around the body and paint/ auto restoration bizz for @ 30++ years.... plating/chrome shops use buffer wheels with different stages/grit of rouge to polish the copper/nickel and chrome finishes and those workers normally use a quarter to clean those wheels...also in the p and b industry the guys who still polish cars with wool pads use the same technique.

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I have two quarters identical to what you have.. Then, you must be super talented to take that quarter and keep it in place and grind the diameter.Evenly around both sides of that without leaving a scratch or a pressure mark in the middle where you love it.So it didn't slide. using to hold this thing dead center and have the diameter of this.So called grinds they are dead center evenly. Grounded in the diameter of the coin, but no ratchets are showincoin without showing scratches.How to use tools?But there is no grinding marks on that at all. I've been using grinders for forty six years in my trade.And ain't no wait in the hell. That was done by a grinder.You can't tell me that somebody had that dead center and took a grinder and made it completely even around the perimeter of that coin on both sides. That I believe was a defective planchet. Who ever said that this was done by a grinder. Please would you post a live video of you making these grinds on this coin.Exactly what I see there. I will send you a gift card for p$100.00 to prove me wrong., but these are your opinion and we greatly appreciate everything that you're telling us,but not everything is always PMD... Don't take this the wrong way.This is my opinion too


Rubduck, it's time you quit just arguing and learn the minting process so you can explain to us how these happen.

The burden of proof is not on the side of damage. The burden of proof is always on the side of mint error. Always has been to serious/seasoned collectors. So you should be able to explain how this happened during the minting process if it's an error.

You're doing this totally backwards. You shouldn't look at a coin and say "How did this happen?" You should look at a coin and say "Can this happen during the minting process?" Knowledge of the minting process will allow you to do that.

There a a billion ways a coin can be damaged.
There is a finite number of ways for errors to happen.


Your first test is to go to error-ref.com and find the "planchet error" that you think this is. Also, since we see these all the time (at least monthly) it should be simple to find one in PCGS or NGC error slab. Find one.

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I have two quarters identical to what you have..


1. Post one here so we can agree it's identical.
2. Once we agree, send it to PCGS.
3. When you get it back, post it here.
4. If it's in an error slab, post the invoice also. I will immediately Paypal the full amount to you.

I'm not going anywhere I own this joint, Time to put your money where your mouth is. Now you have nothing to lose, unless of course you're wrong. I'll be here waiting patiently.
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Eager to see where this goes.
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