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1887 S Morgan - Grade It!

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 Posted 01/10/2026  5:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Odee13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I hadn't posted this before because the back of the case is cracked so I apologize for that. What are your thoughts on grade for this Redfield hoard 87 s?
Are what I believe to be roller marks (as I have seen them on other graded 87 s's) prominent enough to details the coin?

And lastly should I leave in this case or bust it out and recase?

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 Posted 01/10/2026  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
63. Looks like it's in a Redfield 64 holder.
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 Posted 01/10/2026  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Odee13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holder says 65 lol
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 Posted 01/10/2026  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's right, the red Paramount holders were marked MS65. Been a while since I have seen one. Remember when they were all over ebay but seem to be seen less often these days. I would leave it in the holder. These seem popular these days and the crack is in the reverse. These are so popular that fake Paramount holders have started to pop up.
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 Posted 01/10/2026  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-63.
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 Posted 01/10/2026  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Roller marks shouldn't ever details a coin. MS-63
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 Posted 01/10/2026  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Odee13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Eric, I was thinking it could if the marks were deep enough.
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 Posted 01/11/2026  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would also leave it in the holder. There is a difference in value between standard Paramount and Redfield holders, with the latter being more desirable.
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 Posted 01/11/2026  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MS-63 to me.
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 Posted 01/12/2026  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
typical average strike for the year. probably improperly stored for a while with the blotchy toning lowering the eye appeal a tad. I'm not familiar with the different looks of roller marks so I'm not sure what caused it. it does have the appearance of one though due to its length. you would not see that if it was a reeding hit. reverse luster subdued. i'd put her at MS63 and leave it in the holder
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