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Poll Question
. . during this auspicious time of my upcoming 500th post and much celebration coupled with a new found interest in collecting the Franklins I found myself wondering why its listed as a modern coin?
One could argue the Franklin dated to relatively modern times 1963 but the flip side is it also dates from the 40's.
In its defense and promotion that it might be considered a classic it is and always has been silver.At what point will it be considered a classic ?
I thought id run a wee poll for members thoughts.

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 No , its not a classic yet
 Yes ,it certainly should be considered so
 I already thought it was
 Stop bugging us with silly polls

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Certainly should be and I thought it was.
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Im with you Tim , it has all the vital statistics of a real Classic , beauty undeniable (for an old baldy guy), 90% silver , size alone gives it considerable stature.
All the 90% Silvers should really be considered classics now , we wont see their like again..sigh..
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it should be a classic-90% silver, dates back to the 40s, etc and have voted as such. OH DARN-there goes my secret ballot
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I would consider them classic do to the fact that they are the last minor non presidential circulation series.
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I consider Franklins as classics. They are probably considered modern due to the fact that they were a circulating coin with the image of a real American instead of Liberty or other devices.
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 Posted 06/13/2009  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Voted Yes ,it certainly should be considered so
I am a fan of Benjamin Franklin. He was quite the genius.
Some of these in Full Bell Lines in MS65 are darn near impossible to find, Consider the 1949 S in MS65 and several other that are costly. The earlier 1950's in proof, many difficult deep cameo coins to look for.
Now anyone could easily put together an XF set for close to bullion cost of the regular issues, but very few can assemble a high grade set to include all the proofs.
This is a classic coin for everyone.
I think if Kennedy were not assassinated, it would have had to remain until at least 1997. So now it is over 60 years old.
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I don't think I would pay much mind to the vote of Stop bugging us with silly polls either. I think this was a good poll.
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You know Wheezydog , it never occured to me had Kennedy not been assasinated we might still have the Franklins in a clad format.
Its an interesting point hawk1969 brought up as well , the last non president coin.Susan Anthoney and Sacagawea spring to mind although they dont exactly circulate.
With Commemorative halfs so popular why I wonder was a non president chosen for such a significant circulating coin?There were no Dollar coins during the period , the Franklin half was the largest in circulation...yet not a prez
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I would say it's a classic.
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...probably considered modern due to the fact that they were a circulating coin with the image of a real American...


As ratman stated; many collectors use that definition but there's not really any strict guideline that I know of.

The last circulating U.S. coin minted with an allegorical person depicted on it was the 1947 Walking Liberty half dollar. It would be the most recent "classic" coin by that definition.
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The only problem for me is the fact that they dated up into the 60's, But if I were to choose, it would be undoubtably classic. Because of composition and it's now the previous generation of half dollars why isn't it?
I think it's kind of like the Wheat cent for me, I really don't consider it a classic.....
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Maybe now is a good time to redesignate the classics , why shouldnt a Wheat cent be considered a classic design now ? Especially as the cent has another new reverse.
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why shouldnt a Wheat cent be considered a classic design now ? Especially as the cent has another new reverse.


That's what I mean, I just dont ever think of it as a "classic" When in truth I consider it a classic.....do you know what I mean?
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Yes , I believe I do Cole317 , I think I know exactly what you mean.

Thanks to everybody who participated , its good to know the in limbo coins are much respected.Not quite classic and definately not modern.
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a very undervalued set! A classic in my opinion
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