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1867 S Liberty Seated Half

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Hi Folks,

As I was photographing this one, I've started to doubt authenticity. Weight is 12.22. This is a variety 4, so weight should be 12.44. The look, though, is what's throwing me. I can't explain other than all my others in this series are generally lower grades.

Thoughts on grade and authenticity are appreciated. Thanks!

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VF details, cleaned.
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Agreed, VF cleaned.
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Authentic, altered surfaces. Dipped and re-toned?
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VF details, authentic. Someone took a stab at it with Liver of Sulfur :-)
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Agreed, VF Details.
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VF30. I don't see the cleaning.
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Ok- liver of sulfur. I'm not familiar with that. There's definitely something going on with the surfaces. I'll give it an acetone bath and put it on some wood on the windowsill for a few months. Someone on this forum (I think Coin Frog) supplied that idea a while back for a natural retoned look. It works after 6 months or a year.
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VF30 old cleaning. if it sits out a while...no problem
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I would agree with others on grade (VF) and this is authentic, it looks to be a DDR WB-9, WB-102.
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@Heymikep: What should I look for on the DDR? Lettering? Motto? Thanks
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Liver of Sulfur

It's a commercially available preparation of potassium sulfide used to create a dark patina on silver (jewelry, etc.) and other metals.
I had to look it up.

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After 3+ months on the windowsill. I tried to take pics in the same light. They're more or less accurate. I think it's improved. Just thought I'd share my not-so-scientific experiment.


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Looks good!
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Looks much better. I think a TPG will still "details" it.
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