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1805 25c Draped Bust Quarter #2 - Browning-2

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$244. This coin looks to have been struck about 5% off center. The rim at the bottom of the coin is twice as wide as in the top of the coin. A nice example of a collarless strike. Thoughts? Thanks!
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Maybe AG? Nice coin.
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AG-3. Still a great coin to have.
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AG03 and the planchet is pretty good as many of these saw corrosion as they sailed across the pond
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I hesitate a little on this coin. The off-center strike and resulting rim issue creates an artificial wear pattern, where one half of the coin is unprotected and the other half is a little more protected. Just grading the more protected bottom half of the obverse and top half of the reverse would place the coin in the G-04 and not too far below the G-06 range. I could see a TPG taking that into account and netting the coin up a notch to G-04. Whether a TPG does that for this coin is a *shrug.* But it seems to be a potentially upward "maybe" coin.
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AG-3, nice example of a off-center strike!
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[qjust grading the more protected bottom half of the obverse and top half of the reverse would place the coin in the G-04 and not too far below the G-06 range. I could see a TPG taking that into account and netting the coin up a notch to G-[/q]

interesting call on this one FC. I always have been in the corner that TPG's sometimes knock a coin too much for something that occurs to the coin before leaving the mint. especially bust halves. the conclusion I've come to is that they will knock it for up to 1 full grade and maybe 5 points for lesser weakness. the challenge is discerning when you have a coin with this much wear and off-center strike, what can be attributed to stike. I tend to grade them using the highest devices as they tend to exhibit sharper definition. it doesn't work all the time and I end up over grading a coin. I kind of gave up guessing how they handle it.

looking at the top half of the of the bottom half of LIBERTY is very well defined as well as the eye and mouth and stars R1-R6. add the lower hair curls and drape around the bust I can see where you could call G4. to me it looks like someone was in a hurry stamping this one
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