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Trade Dollar From China

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 Posted 06/19/2009  6:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add murty to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This Trade dollar looks pretty nice;I have read all the negatives on China and fake or counterfeit Trade dollars.Additionally all bidders private!
All opinions welcomed on the Trade dollar here:
220436708284
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...220436708284
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 Posted 06/19/2009  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would fool a lot of people.
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 Posted 06/19/2009  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He has several Trade dollars listed presently...one complete with "chops". I wouldn't even think of bidding myself. He even has a Lafayette dollar listed.
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 Posted 06/19/2009  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC on the right. Not even a good fake.

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 Posted 06/19/2009  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would anyone buy coins from China?
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I e-mailed him if it was genuine...answer was YES!
I guess you can't trust anyone anymore! hahahahahahahaha
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 Posted 06/19/2009  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He just left out the part about it being a "genuine" reproduction!
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 Posted 06/20/2009  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I guess you can't trust anyone anymore!"

Put your faith into knowledge and the system, people are only human.
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 Posted 06/20/2009  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always worth looking at feedback

"Fake coins, I was fooled. An expert was stunned by quality of the fakes. Beware!"

This was a follow up after the dude had left positive feedback.
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 Posted 06/21/2009  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with scubu, the fake is not very close to the real thing. Look at the mintmark and the eagles head on reverse
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I always thought that if you were mechanically and artistically inclined enough to fake a coin, wouldn't you be better off being an artist or sculptor? Ooops, common sense rears its head again.

Atrocious, absolutely. Lets all remember that the Chinese have their own mint. A real one. With real dies and striking presses. And real gold and silver. The possibilties make the mind reel, talk about an undetectable counterfiet - a lot better than this one. For heaven's sake with the right technology you could produce an authentic period alloy.

Yikes

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 Posted 06/21/2009  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you saying that the Chinese national mint could be responsible for these fakes?
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 Posted 06/23/2009  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I always thought that if you were mechanically and artistically inclined enough to fake a coin, wouldn't you be better off being an artist or sculptor?

Not really. There are a LOT ofpeople out there that are quite talented artistically but being able to make a living out of being an artist or a sculptor it extremely unlikely. Even most famous artists had to have a patron who believed in him and supported him for years before they became famous and were able to actually make a living on their commissions. Case in point Van Gogh, today he is considered a master and his paintings are worth tens of millions of dollars. But during his life he only managed to sell one painting. No most artists have to have a real job to support themselves and they do their art on the side to please themselves.

No it is much easier to make a fake of something and sell it to people who don't know any better. You'll make a better living that was.
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 Posted 06/24/2009  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gilbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a question on Chinese fake coins. I was told that the fake coins are pitted in the open areas, because most of them at cast and not punched, is this correct? Also I have read that the early Chinese crown coins were cast, is this correct. The reason I'm asking is I have gotten a hold of 80+ Chinese crown coins from an elderly gentlemen, who says that these are real and he had gotten them from his father how was stationed in China at the turn of the last century. Any ideas?
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 Posted 06/24/2009  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The item is pulled already!

They should keep them on line for educational purposes.
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I was told that the fake coins are pitted in the open areas, because most of them at cast and not punched, is this correct?

You can't depend on that. Sometimes the coins are cast, sometimes they are struck from dies that were cast, sometimes struck from dies that are punched, or impact dies, or engraved, or etc. In short counterfeits can be created in many different ways and each type has its own characteristics.


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Also I have read that the early Chinese crown coins were cast, is this correct.

Depends, what time period you are talking about but if the coins you are talking about are from the late 19th or early 20th century then no they are struck coins.
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