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 Posted 06/23/2009  11:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Napoleon31ft to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am tired of all of the dealers on ebay that over grade their coins. So I decided that I would do my own over grading. These coins grade at PO-1 but if you hold them in the light just right they remind me of an MS-64 coin. lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...370219529814
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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with you in the frustration but the words in the listing itself are extremely misleading. Just because towards the bottom you say it's a joke doesn't make what you saying any better then those other graders.

The only way we as numismatists will ever overcome dishonesty and diseatfullness in this world is to be above reproach in all of our actions....and auctions
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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that gave me a good laugh!

At least you came clean at the end.
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Just to make sure when the listing ends I will contact the buyer to make sure they know what they are getting. I dont want to rip anyone off. Just get a laugh. LOL
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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing those I wouldnt worry too much about having to contact a buyer
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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible to read the date and mintmark on that Morgan? Have a look at my avatar to understand my interest.
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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electric_Op_Ltd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I had the nerve to do that. That's hilarious, but its a serious statement as to what goes on on good ol' ebay. The garbage that shows up is unreal, and the rip-offs are very very real.

Maybe I'll bid!

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 Posted 06/23/2009  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Napoleon31ft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No you cant see the date on either.
You can barely tell that the one is a Morgan. Even the eye is gone.
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Isn't there a place you can click on in the auction to report it to ebay? Has any one ever done this? What was the outcome?
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I'm heading to the post office to mail in my can of silver coins to be slabbed. Why? You can read the dates on my coins, therefore I'd expect them to come back MS70 based on this grading system.

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 Posted 06/25/2009  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Luster really made me laugh :))))))))))))))))
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I laughed so hard I almost wet myself. Dude, I read the listing and put you on my friends list... thanks for the laugh I really needed it!

Good luck with that auction! LOLOLOL

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ebay and overgrading is a redundancy
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I am a new morgan collector and buy $200 - $300 per month. I was wondering about those overgrading dealers who list this:

1880-O Morgan silver dollar $ RARE KEY $ BU MS ++++++ $

when the picture clearly shows a smooth eagle breast and they call it BU MS. Rare Key date? come on what is that all about. Do they think we don't have the Red Book?

do they think we are stupid?

I have an ebay rule that I always follow. Never believe anything they say, I grade the coin myself from clear images only. If they cannot take clear photographs (they have have sold 10,000 coins on ebay) then they are frauds. It is not really that hard to take a absolutely great closeup picture with a modern $400 digital SLR and if you have sold 10,000 coins on ebay, then you are a expert, no matter that you say you are not.

I know in other sales categories, ebay used to slap your hands if you described an item with the words "like" or "about" or "almost". I guess ebay has lowered its standards for coin sellers. No kidding, they would not let you even use the words "like new", it either was or was not new. But that was several years ago.

All that being said, I am getting good buys of AU and BU Morgans that I am happy with, but they tend to come from sellers who DO NOT describe them like this:

1880-O Morgan silver dollar $ RARE KEY $ BU MS ++++++ $

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Due to the large amount of detail and the luster I am going to say that these coins range in the MS-64 range.


Heck, why not go all the way and call em MS70! SGS would.
This guy should apply to SGS as a grader!
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