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Has anyone one heard or actually have one of these coins featured in this article? http://www.hcc-coin.com/coinnews.htmlIf anyone has any of these, let us know which mint it is from, etc... Mark |
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And we wonder why so many collectors intertwine and don't understand the terms "error" and "variety." Sad that a dealer and numismatist writes an article like that.
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just looks like a die crack to me. **edit** After reading the article I can say that is very optimistic saying it could compare with the 1955 Doubled die IMHO. But I am sure they will sell for BIG $$$ when they go on ebay. Edited by daviscfad
06/30/2009 5:09 pm
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Quote:This could put this error in league with the 1955 Doubled Die Lincoln Cent and the 1937-D Three Legged Buffalo nickel, each of which are error coins produced from a single faulty die the mint failed to detect prior to commencing production with that die rather than from a deteriorating die or from a faulty hub. hmmm, let's not hold our collective breath.  |
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WOW!  A rare die crack error! That should rank right up there with the "Spitting Horse" on the Delaware quarter. Got a $25 bag of them from the mint and all but a dozen or so had that so called error. Someone will surely pay way to much to have such a rarity as the "Boot Strap" error.  Edited by Tim Stroud
06/30/2009 5:15 pm
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The bootstrap coin has been on ebay a while now , 18.95 bin |
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Reminds me of when I had that unc. bank roll of washington dollars back in 07 with all but one of them with the "Wild Whisker" die crack. Man, I could of been Rich |
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I have read this article and I will tell you NO-ONE loves a good die crack better than I, however, I feel that from the 45+years of collecting, anything that appears on a coin, from a die crack to a extra leaf etc, someone will use the Queen's English to elevate a coin to the must have level.I have probably hundreds of coins with some nice die cracks/breaks,as most here also do, but these are IMO, some thing out of the norm to have because I found them or they were given to me. I would NOT agree that this coin(IMHO) Will ever be in the "league" of the 1955 LWC, while this coin's die leaves a nice looking "die break", I do not think it will be all that, but these days, the next Big "error" coin is out there waiting to be marketed and sold to the wanting collector......Who knows! |
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Spitting horse, speared buffalo and on and on. Some people never learn. They only try to hype to get the newbies to buy them!
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I would also like to mention that "this author" states that this ERROR is up there with the 1955-Cent DDO and the 1937-D Nickel and calls them "errors", it seems while some people call them errors, and are Strongly reminded they are not, then this "Notable Numismatist/Author" states they are errors!!  |
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This guy Richard Geidroyc is not a "Notable Numismatist/Author", he is just some schmuck working in a shop and that certainly does not make him an authority on anything. He is just trying to hype common die cracks to line his own pockets with money from gullible people  EDIT: OMG, these HCC people are the shysters that go around to banks and do appraisal buys, ripping off little old ladies(and everyone else apparently) in the process  Quote:
We specialize in providing free coin and paper money appraisals to individuals directly in over 500 bank locations in an 8 state area. This is where we purchase many of the great collector coins we have for sale and why we have so many "significant" coins. Our current market area is Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and is continually expanding.
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...43;appraisal Edited by biokemist6
08/03/2009 5:38 pm
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Bio, I must say, I do not know why I assumed this person was, What I said he was, THANK-YOU for setting me straight, seriously, I did not know and glad you took the time and put up the site to clearly explain who and what These people are.
I noticed the CCF posts were dated 2006, any word on this group lately?
I have never heard of them!
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Usually if you read what they say after a few moments you realize how much they really know about coins from their lack of proper terms in their descriptions.
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Interestingly,these guys just did an appraisal session at one of the banks I get a lot of my cent rolls from. About a week after their session I started getting a lot of rolls with HCCC written on them in black Sharpie and they were loaded with wheats and good late 60's early 70's stuff. I must have been getting their"dross". That's okay, I got it for face value and I can still look at myself in the mirror!
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Hi Guys,
Don't even get me started on this one:-) Suffice it to say that a die crack is an indication of a die stage. It is neither an error nor a die variety.
To compare these dopey die cracks to a 1955 Doubled Die Obverse which of course, is a die variety is ridiculous.
To compare it to the 1937 D 3-legged "buffalo" , Indian head Five Cent piece is a little more accurate but still off the wall:-)
The 1937 D, three-legged is also not a die variety nor an error but is a die that after being overly abraded was used to strike coins. The abrasion marks indicate a die stage.
Anyway, before I go nuts, it is important to use this thread as an example pertaining to dealers that think they know what errors, die varieties or die stages are but really don't.
Have Fun
PS: Look at how carefully worded Ken Potter's article is.
Edited by foundinrolls
08/04/2009 01:01 am
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Umm, yeah. I'm with some of the others here who are of the opinion that this 'article' is stupid, very irresponsible, and full of statements created only in the interest of selling something in the name of hype that has no real value.
I have been through a half dozen rolls of formative years cents. More than one fourth of the coins I have seen have a similar die crack. This is no error nor variety...nor is it even scarce, much less rare.
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