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 Posted 01/09/2010  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Charles II halfcrown minted Aberystwyth ... It is indeed Charles I and dates 1638/9


I second the origin. Aberystwyth mint is identified by the mintmark open book on both sides. The one on the obverse is very worn but I believe I still can see the remnants of it. On the reverse it's more prominent. Aberystwyth mint issued those from 1638 to 1642. I have a question for alganbagerap, what makes you date it 1638/9?
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 Posted 01/09/2010  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The British Museum dated the coin for me, and I was so excited to be right for once; that I forgot to ask excatly how they dated it.
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 Posted 01/09/2010  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May I play 2. here is one of my few hammered coins...

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 Posted 01/09/2010  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uouo77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are getting me all revved up on hammered coins. So when the wife starts complaining about me buying more coins, I'll be blaming all of you.
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 Posted 01/09/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never tried to post a picture before, so this might not be too cool, but I am going to give it a shot. (This is supposed to be an Elizabeth shilling of around 1562 as I recall):

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I like the bold strike of your coin nohope. I cannot identify it though, and I have been staring at if for a while now. What is this coin, and what are the two dots behind the Queen's head?
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Two dots - London Mint
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Thanks for that! I had heard of the dots previously, but I could not remember what the significance was.

I really think that old British coins are 'so cool', and just to keep things going a bit, here is a Mary groat:

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 Posted 01/10/2010  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, I don't know if this one qualifies, but here is a crown sized coin of Scottish mintage produced shortly after James VI of Scotland became James I (first King of Great Britain, the way I see it). I have had this coin for only a few months and still haven't investigated it too much. The denomination is 30 shillings. Maybe someone knows a wee bit about it?

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Good stuff, zeewool. Nice to see so much of Betty Stuart here.

cgb is running another French auction right now, with a lot of pre 1600 coins. I'm warming up to the idea of French hammered coins, maybe a Henry IV half franc to start out with. I'm not quite ready to step and pay the price for Charlemagne.
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 Posted 01/10/2010  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What is this coin, and what are the two dots behind the Queen's head?


The coin is a halfgroat. All E1 halfgroats were minted at the Tower mint in London. The reverse legend (which was used only for the 5th and 6th issues) states "CIVITAS LONDON". The two pellets, that were put there also only for the 5th and 6th issues, are designed to help with the denomination, 2 pence. The threepence and three-halfpence that were of a very close size to the halfgroat had a rose behind the queen's head. For the 5th issue they had a number of mintmarks, for the 6th it was only "1" or "2". Since the MM doesn't look to me as one of those numbers, I believe yours is the 5th issue, dates 1582 - 1600.
The obverse legend, by the way, says "E.D.G. ROSA SINE SPINA" - Elizabeth by the grace of God a rose without a thorn.
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This is supposed to be an Elizabeth shilling of around 1562 as I recall


Judging by the obverse legend, "ELIZAB DG ANG FR ET HIB REGI" (Elizabeth by the grace of God Queen of England France and Ireland) it is the 5th issue, 1582 - 1600. The previous issues spelled ELIZABETH and REGINA in full. The 6th issue was similar to the 5th, but the mintmark then should be a number "1" or "2", which it is not.
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 Posted 01/10/2010  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow svslav! You know your stuff. Thanks very much. I like learning and you seem like a good 'just the facts ma'am' type of teacher.
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 Posted 01/10/2010  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure!
I'm learning myself as I'm digging out info for other people. By the way, zeewool, did you notice nice pomegranate mintmarks on your Mary groat after words MARIA and VERITAS?
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Yes, but I am unclear as to the significance. I assumed a mint mark.
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