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What Should I Do With My Toning Silver Eagles

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 Posted 07/29/2009  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just don't think toning looks attractive as its not how the coins are issued. I used to have a maple leaf silver 1oz coin way back in the day and it had toned all these funky colors on the reeds. So I just used it as a pocket piece for a while then eventually I just sold it as junk silver.
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 Posted 07/29/2009  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nds - that sounds like a great coin! "All these funky colors?" I'm sure many people on this site would have been interested in purchasing that coin!
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My vote would be to let them tone and see what you end up with. Heck they're only bullion.

Two quick related stories on this.

1. I had some 1987 and 88 ASE's that were in storage (manila coin envelope) for many years. I took them out a couple of years ago and noticed ugly black toning around the edges ... a swish in the E-Z-EST and they were looking brand new. I placed them in mylar and they have been bright ever since.

2. Somehow I missed a coin and just recently found another 1987 in a manila envelope. When I slid it out, I was floored by the beautiful toning. Peach and orange towards the center, chocolate brown towards the edge and a hint of violet in the denticles. I have not gotten around to photographing this one, but I intend to and will share with the masses. It now resides in mylar to slow the progression and will probably end up in an intercept shield.

The point to all this ... Let nature takes its course and see what you end up with. If you don't like it, there are means to return the ASE's to original form with minimal effort and cost.
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ok I have some proofs that have milky white haze are they on the way to toning or is this something diffrent and will the E-Z-Est remove it w/ out hurting the coins grade ie lost mint luster
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 Posted 07/29/2009  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, these are just bullion coins, I'd let them do what ever they do. I guess I never understood collectors and these coins from a numismatic standpoint. I own a few but purely as bullion, for me personally, they have almost zero numismatic premium.
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 Posted 07/29/2009  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i was talking about 1/2 dollar coins and not ASEs
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 Posted 07/29/2009  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeThePenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was me.... I would leave it be, and let it tone.
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 Posted 07/29/2009  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollectingkid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let Them Tone!
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ok I have some proofs that have milky white haze are they on the way to toning or is this something diffrent and will the E-Z-Est remove it w/ out hurting the coins grade ie lost mint luster


yotie, I would hesitate using that product on proofs. It does remove surface metal. It's not real apparent on Business Strikes with a quick dip and thorough rinse. Proofs are more delicate and may show effects of the dip even if done quickly and rinsed well. Business strikes will show effects of multiple dips (dull lustre).
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An altered toned coin goes much deeper into the metal. It does not appear to float on the surface.

Oddly enough one of the ways they say to detect artificial toning is that it seems to float on the coin an isn't really part of it.

What it really means is that you can't always tell if toning is artificial or not.
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ok I have some proofs that have milky white haze are they on the way to toning or is this something diffrent and will the E-Z-Est remove it w/ out hurting the coins grade ie lost mint luster



Don't dip any proofs in E-Z-Est! I use it only on silver bullion pieces that are business strikes.

Be careful with this stuff. Wear protective gloves and avoid the fumes. It contains acid.
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dont worry I dont have any

will the milk turn to diffrent colours later?
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will the milk turn to diffrent colours later?


Nope, the milk spots are part of the silver itself, not above it. Yes, they look ugly but the only way you can remove them is by melting them down.
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got a match?
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You know Condor, I think I will take that statement back. The wording is wrong. I appreciate you reading though. Artificial toning yes, could float as well and appear like that rainbow color you see in puddles at the gas stations where gas is floating on water after it rains.
The kind of floating I meant was that natural toning is a thin layer right on the surface, and not deep into the coin or look as if it were coated, and yes natural toning is part of the coin. You are correct. My bad.

To stop me splitting hairs, I can say this -
Fake tone jobs just look plain wrong, looking at enough both natural and artificial toned coins, I think it becomes easier to see what looks right and what doesn't.
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