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Valued Member
United States
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Every year since 1986 my Dad has given me a Silver Eagle for Christmas. They are all in individual plastic cases with a cardboard insert to hold the coin. I think the cardboard is making the coins tone and it has been interesting to see that some coins are toning faster than others while some aren't toning at all. My question to you is; should I let them continue to tone in the cardboard holders they are in now, or should I get new holders for them that are more archival so they will stop toning. Thanks. Here are some Pics of a few coins and their holders.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Personally, I like the toning, and I think that some people may pay you a premium for it if you ever decide to sell these. Some archival quality materials like Intercept Shield will stop additional toning, but will not reverse what's already there. Personally, I'd put the untoned ones into Intercept Shield flips and leave the toned ones to keep on toning!
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I think you should let them both tone. They're quite attractive as of now. However if they start looking like an oil spill, you should move them into archival pages  **Whoa! Am I looking at a rainbow on the bottom one?
Edited by wd1040 07/28/2009 10:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is the cardboard insert that is causing the toning. Nothing at all wrong with the toning but if you do not like it, then I would recommend removing the Eagles from those holders and place them in cardboard 2x2s or mylar flips.
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Pillar of the Community
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sell them to me  ... I love toned coins. Very nice.
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In my opinion, toned coins are damaged coins. I would sell at melt and buy new ones and put them in airtites. I don't believe the cases you have them in are air tite.
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nds76, do you think a beautifully toned Seated dollar to be damaged? most holders, including mint issued are not air tight, but a great way to preserve any coin is in an air tie, you had mentioned. please do not be offended, I am just curious..thank you. -Tom
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Just another example of different tastes, I love a well toned coin. I see it as another form of beauty, on an already beautiful work of art, some obviously think differently, to each his own......
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Quote: In my opinion, toned coins are damaged coins. The end result of that frame of thinking through the years has been numerous scrubbed and polished coins (exhibiting real damage)! There is nothing wrong with a naturally toned coin.
Edited by ratman4762 07/29/2009 12:27 am
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United States
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 cant argue with that
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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One quick (4-6 seconds) swish around in a jar of E-Z-Est and the toning will be gone. If you don't like the toning, then you can easily remove it.
Give it some thought before you do. The toning does not hurt the value and as has been stated; some collectors prefer it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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None of the grading standards I have ever read have said that naturally toned coins are "damaged". I have not seen where a coin is graded less for toning. Grades are determined primarily for wear and contact marks, which puts a coin at a certain mint state and numerical grade. There may be other added comments for strike and eye appeal.
Naturally toned coins have an extremely thin micro layer form of oxidation. I would agree that a chemically altered coin or heated coin that changes the color of the coin also damages the coin. An altered toned coin goes much deeper into the metal. It does not appear to float on the surface.
I believe that the toning is actually a form of the coin preserving itself. Those cardboard inserts though, for the American Silver Eagles are aftermarket products. I had some of those at one point and they did a nice job on some of the coins and others they made them, well, not so attractive. They were stored for years in a drawer and changed colors. They make white inserts and black ones that go in those snap cases. I sold almost all my silver bullion at one point when it peaked a bit. I have kept only three of my unc eagles, they turned a really nice purple gold. They are in slabs now and seem to have stopped transforming.
I generally like naturally toned coins, if I find it attractive, it is. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder in our hobby.
Edited by TNG 07/29/2009 01:04 am
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Valued Member
 United States
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So I guess what I am asking is that as a coin collector we know not to clean coins and to preserve them as best we can. Do you think it is wrong to leave them in an environment that is known to be conducive to toning on purpose instead of trying to preserve them in archival containers?
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I have not seen where a coin is graded less for toning. In fact, if you have an attractively toned coin, you will also get a #9733; arrrghh it's supposed to be a star.
Edited by wd1040 07/29/2009 01:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I vote to let them tone!!There pertier that way
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Pillar of the Community
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well said wheezydog...imho, it adds to that last element of grading...eye appeal. I've seen toning effect an $18 Silver Eagle and sell for $300+. remember collecting is all about what you like.
Edited by neversuited1 07/29/2009 07:52 am
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