1983 P Nickel W/ Die Deterioration ?

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numismo Rest in Peace United States 3039 Posts	Posted 08/09/2009 10:52 pm This looks like Die Deterioration with a little Machine Doubling thrown in but I just want to be sure. Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff

TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 08/09/2009 11:00 pm 1982 and 1983 nickels for both P and D are often found like this. Especially the 1983 P. Yet they will have steps being it is the center of the die. I am not sure but maybe dies get hot striking planchets, and when they get too hot this might be some of the cause. Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 08/09/2009 11:31 pm Hi, This is not heat related. Five-cent planchets are hard and they really destroy the dies. The coin shows the effects of Die Deterioration. Have Fun, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 08/09/2009 11:41 pm Thanks foundinrolls, that clears that up. I did not mean the planchets, each one of those is the same temperature when it gets struck but the dies get hot striking them, which would lead to deterioration. I have seen striations going out toward the rims on some coins as well, they look like stretch marks ( not that kind ) I thought maybe overheated dies did that as well. Report this Post to the Staff
rockdude Pillar of the Community United States 1807 Posts	Posted 08/10/2009 12:31 am Die Deterioration Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/13/2009 11:12 pm Quote: I have seen striations going out toward the rims on some coins as well, they look like stretch marks ( not that kind ) I thought maybe overheated dies did that as well. The dies and planchets do get hot from striking but you are talking a couple hundred degrees, nowhere near hot enough to really start causing heat related deformations. The striations going out toward the rim are from the "cold" flow of the planchets metal past the die surface causing wear. They simply come from using the die too long. Edited by Conder101 08/13/2009 11:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 12:34 am Thanks Conder...that makes it perfectly clear. Report this Post to the Staff
dbrablec Pillar of the Community United States 1944 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 08:25 am as my learning curve improves, and knowing the Die Deterioration, and Machine Doubling do not add value to the coins, I still find them to be "cool" finds, and the break up the span between finding the "real deal". not everything I keep, is based only on increased collector value. personally I enjoy finding them - also. I have so far found (7) seven definite variety cents. just my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
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