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I remember reading some posts in the past but I can't find it through a search. I was wondering if anyone has the link or has the weight amount handy of real coins vs. counterfeit weight for the majority of US silver coins.
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Yea I got all of those weights but I wanted the counterfeit weight to compare.
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Yea I got all of those weights but I wanted the counterfeit weight to compare.
I'm no expert on counterfeiting...but if I ever chose to try to make a living at it, I would try to get the weight of my fraudulent pieces accurate! However, compiling a list of known weights of fraudulent pieces is pointless, as you never know when new counterfeiter is going to start production or what his pieces will weigh! As long as you know what a genuine piece should weigh (and the acceptable variance) you should be fine.
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It normally doesn't matter. If its not the right weight then it is the wrong weight.
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However, compiling a list of known weights of fraudulent pieces is pointless, as you never know when new counterfeiter is going to start production or what his pieces will weigh!


That's a good point Ratman I never thought about that. So I guess it would be pointless to try and keep up with counterfeit weight. After doing some more research, the best I have found on acceptable weight variance was roughly a tenth of a gram. Does the age of the coin along with years of wear on the coin affect the weight of the coin enough to matter?
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The age of the coin...no. Wear will affect the weight. A Dollar coin will show more of a loss of weight in vg, than a smaller cent in vg. But who really knows what they weighed when they were minted? We have a rough idea at best. I save all my copper cents and weigh my 1982's to sort out the zincs. The stated weight of 1982 coppers are 3.11 grams. I've found them to weigh between 3.13 grams down to 2.98 grams. None of them show enough wear to justify that much of a difference. The planchets had to be light to begin with. I could only imagine that it is possible for larger variances with larger sized coins. One thing for sure though, the farther away from the targeted acceptable variance...the more cautious I become.
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Really not easy to figure out the weights of counterfeits. Since they are made by numerous individuals and they really don't compare their statistics with each other. This would mean differet materials and mistures. Of course if you've heard the Chinese have been making fake Silver Dollars with the exact size and weight of our old ones. Difficult to really tell since now they are putting them in fake slabs too. The exact copies are a problem since they would weigh the same as real ones. These are made for numismatic purposes so a little Silver is no big thing when your selling a dollar coin for hundreds.
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