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Can You Explain Crown Coins And Minor Coins

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Hi,

I'm confused with these Numismatic terminologies and I'm lazy to google it.

Can you explain in laymans term a Crown Coin and a Minor coin?

Thanks,

MGT
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A Crown was originally a British coin which was equal to 5 shillings. It was originally a pretty big coin (28+ g, .900 silver, ASW .8409 oz). When the British moved to .500 Silver, then copper-nickel, the Crown remained a huge coin. Nowadays, the word Crown-sized coin refers to big coins, whether they have any silver in them or not. I'm not sure if there is an official size that a coin needs to exceed in order to be considered "crown-sized". As for minor, think the opposite, often the word minor is associated with small silver pieces. Again, I don't know the exact size that makes a coin a minor.
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G'day, the British "Crown" coin was valued at five shillings.
For a long time, a long time ago, the "Spanish Dollar", or Piece of Eight, circulated in Britain and its Empire.
For much of that time, the Dollar was officially valued at five shillings.
Indeed, for a while, the British counterstruck the effigy of King George III on Spanish coins.
In 1804, the Bank of England overstruck Spanish dollars.
As I understand it, there was a slight difference in the purity of the silver in the British and Spanish coins, but they were of very similar diameter and weight.
In the same category, you might include the French Ecu, which became 5 francs after the Revolution; and the Thalers of German-speaking regions.
The only thing more interesting than a big silver coin, is a big gold one.
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"Crown" and "minor" are generally fuzzy terms that are used by world coin dealers to categorize their coins by size.

A "crown", in this general sense, is basically any silver or silver-looking (eg cupronickel) coin that can just fit into the largest size 2x2 holder. British crowns are the standard size, although US dollars, Spanish dollars, German thalers, French ecus and 5 franc coins, would all qualify as "crowns".

If a coin is too big to fit into a 2x2, it's called a "maxi-crown".

A "minor" is technically any coin not made of gold that's smaller than a crown, though often the term is limited only to the smallest coin denominations issued by a country, or coins that are physically "small".

In the US series, silver dollars and Ikes would be considered "crowns". The ½¢, 1¢, 2¢, 3¢, 5¢ and 10¢ would definitely qualify as "minors", though the 20¢, quarter, half and modern (small) dollar would technically qualify, too.
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Basiclly, a "crown-sized coin is any large coin'dollar-sized, ot simiolar to the 8-Reales coins used by Spain, and other countries. This includes the "Taler", which is a bit larger than the dollar, among others. The coinage of Mexico has several "crown-sized" coins, some were silver, others are not. The size is generally accepted to be any coin that will fit, as has been mentioned above, a 2X2 flip. Now, there are crown sized flips, larger than 41mm in diameter, but they are uncommon, and thus, hard to get.
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