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Help With Ancient Coin Identification

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 Posted 09/13/2009  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add morgantype to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all!

I am trying to ID 3 Ancient Coins from my grandfather's estate.

The first is in a paper wrapper with "Roman Coin" written on the outside. below are images of obverse and reverse. This coin is about the size of a quarter, a bit larger actually. it looks like a bust on one side and a deer/antelope on the other:

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This one is in a paper with "Greek Coin" written on it. It has a bust on one side a what looks like a person driving a chariot with horses attached. It is about the size of a half dollar or a little smaller:

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The last one is about the size of a dime. It is in a wrapper with "Ephesus Coin in Turkey" written on it. It has a dragon/horse/pegasus on one side a bee/moth on the other:

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If anyone had any idea with the type of coin, a good reference site/book, year and value....really any information to narrow my search would be immensely helpful!

Thanks a lot!!
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 Posted 09/13/2009  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alas, I believe all three of these aren't genuine ancient coins. To me, they look like the typical "tourist fakes" you often see for sale in Turkey.

The middle one is definitely a fake - it's a copper copy of a silver tetradrachm or dekadrachm of Syracuse, a very famous coin design. this old thread has a similarly fake dekadrachm, though of a slightly different design; this other thread has a fantasy coin with the same obverse as this one.

The top one isn't Roman, but I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to be; I can;t see any writing or markings, which would be unusual for an ancient coin. It may be a fantasy issue like the one in the second thread I linked to above, with designs taken from coins from two different cities. The animal on the reverse is a goat; a standing goat like this was a popular feature on the silver coins of Ainos; see the Wildwinds page here. The same "burnt orange" patination can be seen on both this coin and the middle one; this is not the natural colour for an ancient copper coin.

The bottom one is I feel the one most likely to be genuine, but if all three coins came from the same place, I'd be worried about it, too. The bee and the stag are both common design elements on the coins of Ephesus, and plenty of different types of copper coins with both on them are known, like this one.
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 Posted 09/13/2009  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree they all appear to be fakes.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sokol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. it's fake!
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 Posted 04/23/2010  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I agree. it's fake!

Sokol,

Care to elaborate as to why you believe it's a fake besides copying the last posters remark? There really is no need to bump a 6 month old post with without any new information or insight.
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