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1961 Lincoln Cent - 45% Ragged Clip

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 Posted 09/13/2009  9:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How would you authenticate something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1961-Lincoln-ce...in_W0QQitemZ120467017633?hash=item1c0c64cfa1
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 Posted 09/14/2009  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt very much that it got out of the mint like that.
Not saying impossible, but highly unlikely. Post mint damage most likely.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Siuol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if it was post mint because it appears the the top of the coin has the blakesley effect going on.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's one heck of a lamination error you got there.

Can't think of what could possibly cause this. Possibly liquid nitrogen was used and hit really hard which would explain the contact marks
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 Posted 09/14/2009  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollectingkid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow someone payed 108$$ for it
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 Posted 09/14/2009  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One born every minute !
Even a possible clipped planchet like that
is improbable. A die doing that ?
Then escaping ?
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 Posted 09/14/2009  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gonna get the jigsaw and file out :)
Make some extra money.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Noticed the Censor. Did not think the actual name of the file
was an improper word. Sorry about that. Have been calling them
that since I was a kid.
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 Posted 09/15/2009  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a genuine ragged clip. It got out the same way as any other errors of this period -- in a mint-sewn bag or in a bulk shipment that was received at a counting house or Federal Reserve Bank.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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 Posted 09/15/2009  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MacMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know mike but there something about that 1961.that make me think it was a home made error.
but that is just my opinion
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 Posted 09/15/2009  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not homemade. A couple things to look at- the major rim absence opposite the clip due to the Blakesley Effect and IGWT is stretched towards the edge, that can only come from the metal flowing towards the collar but not being restrained by it due to the smaller size of the planchet. Ragged clips come from a planchet being punched from the end of the metal stock sheet whereas a straight clip would come from the side of the sheet and a curved clip would be from overlap within the sheet. My biggest gripe with the auction is that larger pics would have been better for an error like this one.
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 Posted 09/15/2009  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks homemade to me.Notice the scrape marks on the cheek and rim.Looks like post mint damage.
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 Posted 09/15/2009  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Siuol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with mike and biokemist. If it was homemade there is no way that they could have gotten the words in god we trust to flow towards the edge, and to have gotten rid of the rim in that spot without obliterating the letters. Exactly what chemist said. Also you can see where the letters LIBE appear to be flowing towards the bottom edge although not as much. Of course the scratches are post mint damage probably by someone throwing it away thinking it wasn't worth anything. Looks like it was scuffed by being in a parking lot or something of that nature.
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 Posted 09/15/2009  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I am going to add to the opinions that the coin is a genuine coin struck on an incomplete planchet. The flow of the motto, IN GOD WE TRUST is a dead giveaway:-) It also should be said, that Mike D. could identify an error of this type with one eye closed and with a blindfold over the other one:-)

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Bill
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